The repeal of this in America sounds like bad news for internet oddballs everywhere

The idea of the internet as a force for good is in tatters. This is the final nail in the coffin of the internet as the wild west

Worth remembering that this bill was only introduced 2 years ago.

What does it mean in layman's terms for shitpostinh on TH?

(12-14-2017, 10:30 PM)Stupid-Claus Wrote: What does it mean in layman's terms for shitpostinh on TH?

We'll need to up subs 5000% if you want page load times to stay above a minute.

Censorship, your ISP being able to control your internet habits, paying through the nose for things that are free at the moment. Just all round shiteness  

(12-14-2017, 10:30 PM)Stupid-Claus Wrote: What does it mean in layman's terms for shitpostinh on TH?

Basically turn the internet into a service like sky telly. Get your basic websites as standard, google and stuff, buy the entertainment package and get access to Netflix and YouTube. Buy the sports package and get access to Sky Sports etc, Social media package for your Facebook and Twitter. Adult package for your porn etc etc.

Would also have a negative impact on things like research and education.

I can't see this sticking, seems like literally the whole world v government and some big companies.

(12-14-2017, 10:52 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: Basically turn the internet into a service like sky telly. Get your basic websites as standard, google and stuff, buy the entertainment package and get access to Netflix and YouTube. Buy the sports package and get access to Sky Sports etc, Social media package for your Facebook and Twitter. Adult package for your porn etc etc.

Will it though?

It wasn't like that before.

I agree that it's a regressive move to repeal a progressive policy but the internet wasn't like that pre NN.

It's also specific to American ISPs and won't effect us here. Just Theresa may banning golden showers you need to worry about here.

(12-14-2017, 10:54 PM)Alan Partridge Wrote: Would also have a negative impact on things like research and education.

I can't see this sticking, seems like literally the whole world v government and some big companies.

There are too many big corporations who would be effected negatively for it to ever pan out the way Rog said up there.

Hate to go all Lewis here but I really doubt there will be significant change.

https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/...7624406018

There is a reason the ISPs are spending big bucks to change it, Morph.

Deep web might get a bit quicker with more users and hosts

(12-14-2017, 10:56 PM)Morph Wrote: Will it though?

It wasn't like that before.

AT&T blocked their customers from using Face Time on their phones unless they joined a more expensive plan pre Net Neutrality. Think we can expect more of that. It is an attack on internet freedom for sure. The big corps seem to have realised they have the potential for untapped revenue here hence the massive lobbying.

(12-14-2017, 10:56 PM)Morph Wrote: Will it though?

It wasn't like that before.

I agree that it's a regressive move to repeal a progressive policy but the internet wasn't like that pre NN.

It's also specific to American ISPs and won't effect us here.  Just Theresa may banning golden showers you need to worry about here.

Before what? What you on about?

That's exactly what it's for. So ISPs can control your internet traffic and charge a premium for access.

(12-14-2017, 10:52 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: Basically turn the internet into a service like sky telly. Get your basic websites as standard, google and stuff, buy the entertainment package and get access to Netflix and YouTube. Buy the sports package and get access to Sky Sports etc, Social media package for your Facebook and Twitter. Adult package for your porn etc etc.

It will also allow ISPs to put chokepoints on sites not controlled by them or who don't have deep enough pockets to pay them. They'll be able to block content on any grounds, including editorial views. This has happened in Germany, apparently, where websites were blocked by an ISP because they were criticising its practices. Pai is a cunt, basically.

Can they not just fuck off

(12-14-2017, 11:06 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: Before what? What you on about?

That's exactly what it's for. So ISPs can control your internet traffic and charge a premium for access.

Net neutrality was implemented in 2015. There were no Sky style packages pre 2015 from American ISPs restricting people behind pay walls from accessing Netflix or ESPN.

If this all ends up properly being repealed (which there's still a massive chance it can be denied) it will need to be written into your contract with them that they can do that which you'll need to sign and agree to.

(12-14-2017, 11:07 PM)Bobby Beg-B Wrote:

It will also allow ISPs to put chokepoints on sites not controlled by them or who don't have deep enough pockets to pay them. They'll be able to block content on any grounds, including editorial views. This has happened in Germany, apparently, where websites were blocked by an ISP because they were criticising its practices. Pai is a cunt, basically.

The EU has a net neutrality law does it not, so surely that would be illegal?

I believe our version of this is an EU regulation so just wait for Brexit and the chance for the tories to control the internet

(12-14-2017, 11:11 PM)Morph Wrote: Net neutrality was implemented in 2015.  There were no Sky style packages pre 2015 from American ISPs restricting people behind pay walls from accessing Netflix or ESPN.

If this all ends up properly being repealed (which there's still a massive chance it can be denied) it will need to be written into your contract with them that they can do that which you'll need to sign and agree to.

Net Neutrality is the basic principle of the internet Morph. It's how the internet has worked since its inception. A couple of years ago folk caught wind that ISPs were planning to go down this throttle and package route and forced that bill through Congress to protect net neutrality, not create it.