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'Wings Over TalkHearts' Politics Thread

'Wings Over TalkHearts' Politics Thread
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#19,661
06-13-2018, 03:01 PM
Are we still pretending that script was from today? Laugh

That'll be the script that references the government making deals earlier that day and keeps referring to 'this evening'?

That's the script from this morning?
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#19,662
06-13-2018, 03:01 PM
Daisley's Israel shtick on his twitter feed btw FuckMe
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#19,663
06-13-2018, 04:26 PM
Daisley's is a disgusting man.

Glad to see people are talking about Scotland and the shameful decision to allow 15 mins to debate devolution. Looks like it worked.
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06-13-2018, 07:18 PM (Edited 06-13-2018, 07:19 PM by Del-icious.)
http://thenational.scot/news/16286003.WA...n_Commons/

On a day when the SNP don't look too great, the vile tories manage to make themselves look even worse.

Get this cunt to fuck I hope he is sacked.

Not a fan of the national, but doesn't take away from the facts.
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06-13-2018, 07:43 PM
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#19,666
06-13-2018, 07:45 PM
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(08-02-2018, 09:04 AM)Mags Wrote: A resposta é Sim.

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#19,667
06-13-2018, 09:20 PM
It is vile.

Take away from the whole “lol hope snp do kill themself”, a member of parliament making a joke about suicide in parliament is unacceptable.

The snp all stormed out though!!

Honestly time for big jezza to get a hold of this and sort us out.
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06-14-2018, 09:14 AM
Sajid Javid to relax immigration controls to bring in thousands more skilled workers

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/201...s-skilled/
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06-14-2018, 09:16 AM (Edited 06-14-2018, 09:17 AM by CritchSmile.)
That's very good news. Unfortunately, the truth is that it's unskilled migrants that we need most.
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06-14-2018, 09:38 AM
It's not really a relaxation, it's just increasing the cap. Don't believe the propaganda which is seeking o change the narrative of the nasty party when this is a drop in th ocean in terms of the hostile environment and anti-business immigration policies.

There is very little reason to want to come here to work as opposed to other countries, tbh. Same if you come as a student. Pay tens of thousands a year and get treated with contempt. Laugh

Tier 2, you face exorbitant fees to extend leave (over £1000 + a £600 health charge), those fees go up every april.
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06-14-2018, 11:21 AM
I'd love for you to write a wee essay for us one day on the truth of what's going on and your experiences. It would probably be something that newspapers would be interested in publishing to be honest. Guardian or New Statesman
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06-14-2018, 05:49 PM
Where's the investment in domestic education/training ? Where's the drive to motivate British youth to take up engineering, teaching, and positions in health care?

Is this even on the table these days?

Are we all thick/lazy etc?

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06-14-2018, 05:55 PM (Edited 06-14-2018, 05:59 PM by CritchSmile.)
(06-14-2018, 05:49 PM)pondlife Wrote: Where's the investment in domestic education/training ?  Where's the drive to motivate British youth to take up engineering, teaching, and positions in health care?

Is this even on the table these days?

Are we all thick/lazy etc?

Fat Cunt

Where's the investment?
It's all been cut.

Where's the drive to motivate our youth?
Well engineering requires people to secure a university degree which now results in the individual being saddled with tens of thousands of student debt, teachers are incredibly poorly paid for the hours they work and an ageing population means we require skilled Dr's to supplement our own and a host of migrants to work in social care as the pay and conditions are so poor that they would not be of interest or financially viable for people who grew up here.

Are we all thick/lazy?
No. People are working longer than ever before for less and with less investment in their futures from their employers. The safety net for people who fall out of work has also been cut to the point where people will slip into homelessness if they do not try and manage their increasing debts with zero hour contracts, essentially becoming slaves to the whims of employers with little to none employee rights or job/shift security week-to-week.
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06-14-2018, 06:33 PM
Thanks for the response, Scott. Situation seems fairly straightforward so why are these issues not being addressed. Surely even the folks who support the big nasty Tories must see the key to success is inward investment in our human resources.

Guess folks are worried about Labour's overall approach to getting the country back on track; separating the issues discussed above from the social safety net handouts that a portion of teh country are expecting to receive.

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06-14-2018, 06:42 PM (Edited 06-14-2018, 06:44 PM by CritchSmile.)
The media and culture at large hasn't done it's job in challenging the "we must all keep tightening our belts" narrative.

The policy for the last decade has been - keep cutting every aspect of society year on year until we wake up to a transformative, productive economy. This was never challenged and those who tried were told to keep quiet.

A few people now are dipping their toe into the water of "maybe we have to do something about it", as evidenced in your last post, but we're a decade too late and we've already lost a generation.

As people become more frustrated each year as the best years of their lives slip by, the populists will offer change - but on anti-immigration, protectionist, isolationist tickets.
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06-14-2018, 07:18 PM
(06-14-2018, 06:42 PM)Gregory Wrote: The media and culture at large hasn't done it's job in challenging the "we must all keep tightening our belts" narrative.

The policy for the last decade has been - keep cutting every aspect of society year on year until we wake up to a transformative, productive economy. This was never challenged and those who tried were told to keep quiet.

A few people now are dipping their toe into the water of "maybe we have to do something about it", as evidenced in your last post, but we're a decade too late and we've already lost a generation.

As people become more frustrated each year as the best years of their lives slip by, the populists will offer change - but on anti-immigration, protectionist, isolationist tickets.

Unfortunately so. I left just before the euphoria of '97 (bad timing again for me, haha) but I get the impression that New Labour rested on their laurels that was Cool Britannia, expecting to ride the wave, when in reality the global economy was changing, and they instead really needed to drive home the optimism and invest in what has always made Britain great, it's people.

They lost sight of the grass roots of what Labour voters really cared for I suspect.
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#19,677
06-15-2018, 03:05 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44496427

A great finish to a shocking week for the scum. Monty Oh Well
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06-15-2018, 03:12 PM
(06-15-2018, 03:05 PM)Gregory Wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44496427

A great finish to a shocking week for the scum.  Monty Oh Well

Go have a look at the guys record on votes etc. Wants to ban the burqa, bring in death penalty and conscription etc.

An absolute scumbag.
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06-15-2018, 03:13 PM
(06-15-2018, 03:12 PM)2nisia Wrote: Go have a look at the guys record on votes etc.  Wants to ban the burqa, bring in death penalty and conscription etc.

An absolute scumbag.

Imagine ever contemplating voting for this lot. Heh
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#19,680
06-15-2018, 03:19 PM
Exactly what we have been saying on here.

Quote:To be a Scottish Remain voter in the time of Brexit is to be in a sizeable democratic majority, but also to be disenfranchised and sneered at; to be marginalised and ignored. We watch, passionate but powerless, as English politicians drag us somewhere we have explicitly made clear we don't want to go. Adding insult to injury, it's painfully clear to us that these politicians haven't the first clue what they're doing – that they campaigned for and delivered this rupture without any significant understanding of its consequences or grasp of its complexity. It is a horrible betrayal.

This government is comfortably the worst in living memory. We look at Boris Johnson and David Davis and Jacob Rees-Mogg - the first a man of desperate moral unseriousness who seems to view the country as his plaything and the Brexit calamity as a career opportunity, the second scarily out of his depth and covering his inadequacy by threatening to quit on the half-hour, the third a spoiled, self-indulgent dilettante – and we wonder what we're supposed to have in common.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/st...orth-risks
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