Talk Hearts Daily News Thread

[Jeff Resnick]

A lawyer I went to school with mentioned that there was obviously other things in consideration since they delayed sentencing?

Background reports are generally asked for in most cases and, IIRC, have to always be done for first offenders.

[2MatoFish]

You seem to think I'm justifying what has happened - I'm not.However, if she has lied about her age and looks old enough for the police to not question why she was out at half 1 up town then I can't help but have some sympathy with the guy.

You said you think he was set up and that we don't know everything. What don't we know that makes you think he was set up?

[Bill Cosby]

If she lied about her age. If she looked 18 rather than 12.

[Dexter]

Pretty sure it would be easy to tell if someone was 12 years old as opposed to 18.

[Bill Cosby]

You do not expect to be standing next to a 12 year old at a taxi rank at half 1 in the morning.

[2MatoFish]

If she lied about her age. If she looked 18 rather than 12.

That's not being 'set up'. It's also not a fact.

What facts aren't we being told that makes you think he was set up?

[Bill Cosby]

If someone looks older and then lies about their age the guy has been setup, by her. It can certainly be a fact that someone has lied.


Regardless of the outcome of what has happened, clearly the young lass needs help and support and someone needs to ensure she is safe from now on.

[Dexter]

If someone looks older and then lies about their age the guy has been setup, by her. It can certainly be a fact that someone has lied.


Regardless of the outcome of what has happened, clearly the young lass needs help and support and someone needs to ensure she is safe from now on.

What part of "rape" don't you understand?

[Bill Cosby]

As I understood it, it was consensual but catogorised as rape due to her age?

[Dexter]

As I understood it, it was consensual but catogorised as rape due to her age?

You're just trolling.

I'm out.

[2MatoFish]

If someone looks older and then lies about their age the guy has been setup, by her. It can certainly be a fact that someone has lied.

Going a step beyond "she was asking for it, your honour", and actually claiming she made him do it.

I thought that's what you meant.

[Shuto Makino]

I can't imagine circumstances in which any twelve year old at all would look so much older than 12 that this wouldn't be creepy as fuck. I'm guessing she maybe looked borderline for being 16 and he decided not to ask questions. Still creepy.

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

There's always a lot of hypothetical "but if she looked 17/18" type arguments bandied about in these cases. Willing to bet that not one person making those arguments has ever met a 12 year old who could pass for 18. (pre-empting smilie-based responses here)

[Bill Cosby]

Perhaps not 18, certainly 16.

[Del-icious]

Think without knowing what the lassie looks like it's impossible to say whether you could easily tell if she was 12 or not.

It's a pretty difficult one, I don't think he's intentionally raped a child. I don't know the full story but if he's been spoken to by the police in the early hours of the morning uptown you've got to assume that she didn't look her age. If a sober policeman who's job it is to pick up on shit like this doesn't, then i'm not too sure how you can expect some daft 19 year old to. He's also asked her her age, in which she's lied about.

He's not been set up here, he's been incredibly stupid as even if she was 16 it'd be fucking creepy anyway but not illegal. But going by the story at face value i'm not sure it's fair to say he has intentionally set out to rape a 12 year old. If she had been 15 i think it'd be a different case but the fact that she's so young you'd assume it's only going to end up one way for him.

[Bill Cosby]

That's pretty much where I'm at. Stupid, naive and incredibly creepy. I'm not sure he deserves his life ruined over this though.

[2MatoFish]

That's pretty much where I'm at. Stupid, naive and incredibly creepy. I'm not sure he deserves his life ruined over this though.

Pretty much where we're all at, except you think she has set him up.

[Bill Cosby]

If she's lied about her age then she's set him up.

[Shuto Makino]

I'm not even having it that a twelve year old would look 16. We're talking just out of primary school here. I don't believe it at all, and even if she did then cruising taxi ranks for drunk 16 year olds would still be creepy.

[Big Physical Acey]

A lawyer I went to school with mentioned that there was obviously other things in consideration since they delayed sentencing?

Background reports are generally asked for in most cases and, IIRC, have to always be done for first offenders.

You always get reports in cases where custody is a possibility, or the sheriff/judge wants to know more about the convicted person. It definitely doesn't mean that there must be a hidden story.

As I understood it, it was consensual but catogorised as rape due to her age?

A twelve year old isn't capable of consenting in this context. That's the point.