'Wings Over TalkHearts' Politics Thread

[Big Physical Acey]

TalkHearts is a fairly disgusting website too tbf.

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

Ah, wee Franco can't resist his wee #MagsBad posts. Just sees the poster and posts without engaging his brain. Sad.

Where did I attack the poster please? No response to Underwood either I see

[Walter Sobchak]

lead BBC article?

"Corbyn struggles with cost of childcare policy."

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

Mags lashing out with neggies State

[Mr A]

Where did I attack the poster please? No response to Underwood either I see

I didn't say you attacked the poster. I just said you saw who the poster was and posted a response without engaging your brain, as you've done again here

A well deserved neggie if ever there was one

[Papin]

[shaun.lawson]

https://www.ft.com/content/f1435a8e-372b...3e61754ec6

We are so, so, so fucked.

[Roger H. Sterling]

"we"

[Johnny]

rude, offensive, obnoxious, and ridiculous. A caricature of a once great interviewer poster. Should be put out to pasture forthwith.

Just described yersel

[shaun.lawson]

"we"

Good point tbf.

[Mr A]

lead BBC article?

"Corbyn struggles with cost of childcare policy."

tbf that is what happened and the article is balanced

"During a later event in Watford, Mr Corbyn apologised for failing to recall the cost of his party's childcare policy.
"I didn't have the exact figure in front of me, so I was unable to answer that question, for which obviously I apologise," he said, adding that it was "unacceptable" that Ms Barnett had reportedly been subject to abuse on social media for her grilling of the Labour leader."

[Charlie Kelly]

You've got to ask why being unable to source a figure is being seen as worse than having absolutely zero costing figures.

[Johnny]

The worst part is this is what the focus is on, rather than the actual policy itself. Havent heard a single thing about it but i know CORBYN IN CHILDCARE POLICY DISASTER. Not one bit of analysis of what the thing is or even if the numbers he couldnt mind add up

[shaun.lawson]

You've got to ask why being unable to source a figure is being seen as worse than having absolutely zero costing figures.

It'd be a very strange kind of interviewer who said: "You don't know the figures for a policy you're launching today and will obviously be very expensive? No worries Mr C, we'll let you off cos your opponent hasn't even got any..."

Especially so given that Labour's "fully costed" manifesto is back of a fag packet stuff; as good as made up. Both manifestos are fantasy politics in different ways; both treat the electorate like it's made up of complete idiots (about the only thing that both get right, really).

The reason for such stupefying lack of detail or mathematical accuracy can be summed up in one word. Brexit. Both parties know all economic plans are irrelevant given what it's going to do to the country; neither are prepared to acknowledge it.

[Johnny]

Spend more = tax more = spend more



The policy is sound

[Picards Forehead]

https://www.ft.com/content/f1435a8e-372b...3e61754ec6

We are so, so, so fucked.

not many financial times readers here

[Charlie Kelly]

It'd be a very strange kind of interviewer who said: "You don't know the figures for a policy you're launching today and will obviously be very expensive? No worries Mr C, we'll let you off cos your opponent hasn't even got any..."

Especially so given that Labour's "fully costed" manifesto is back of a fag packet stuff; as good as made up. Both manifestos are fantasy politics in different ways; both treat the electorate like it's made up of complete idiots (about the only thing that both get right, really).

The reason for such stupefying lack of detail or mathematical accuracy can be summed up in one word. Brexit. Both parties know all economic plans are irrelevant given what it's going to do to the country; neither are prepared to acknowledge it.

Absolutely no issue with him being grilled on the cost considering the rest of the manifesto, what I have got an issue is with the media very rarely highlighting or questioning why the Tories have given absolutely zero indication of costs or how they're going to do anything, but pouncing on any figure mishap that Labour might have.

[shaun.lawson]

Spend more = tax more = spend more



The policy is sound

Spend more = tax more = corporations get the hell out of dodge = tax take goes down, tax evasion/avoidance goes up = unemployment = gloom = skyrocketing debt = collapse in bonds = run on pound = crash = mortgage foreclosures = mass unemployment = default on interest = IMF bailout = austerity until 3000.

And that's even without Brexit. The consequences of which will make Scottish independence a certainty, surely?

[Walter Sobchak]

Spend more = tax more = corporations get the hell out of dodge = tax take goes down, tax evasion/avoidance goes up = unemployment = gloom = skyrocketing debt = collapse in bonds = run on pound = crash = mortgage foreclosures = mass unemployment = default on interest = IMF bailout = austerity until 3000.

And that's even without Brexit. The consequences of which will make Scottish independence a certainty, surely?

Corporation tax was 28% in 2010, hardly fucking communism to put it back there.

Pay tax on sales in the UK. Corporations aren't going to just stop trading here. The market is too big.

[Papin]

You can pull out the whataboutery on the Tory costings but the facts are that Corbyn went into that interview to discuss that very policy. For someone in his position not have that information commited to memory or even scribbled down is so poor.

He wasn't hijacked - he was there to discuss that very thing and it wasn't a trick question ffs

So amateur.