General Hearts Related Pish

[Sterling Archer]

Begbies points a good one, the games we choose to play these guys in are mental.

You'd think you'd play them in the “easier” games alongside an experienced player but we chuck them in against Ibrox and parkhead. Did it with Smith, Moore, Henderson, Brandon, Cochrane and probably others I've forgot

[Hank Scorpio]

That's the last 3 really promising youngsters I can think of (Paterson, Hickey and Cochrane) that have shown no intention of signing a contract once they have broken through. Different circumstances with Cochrane, since we punted him out on loans and deemed him not good enough for the Championship, but there needs to be something rotten about the club that players want to leave. 

I guarantee the average Hearts fans will just put it down to a lack of loyalty from the players, but it just seems like more evidence that Hearts under Budge is miserable

[Zizou]

Where is this coming from?  Never really seen anyone from the club saying this was the case but fans have been saying this for a while now.

Cochrane said it in a podcast interview.

[CritchSmile]

He's not done a lot of the things hearts asked from him in terms of physique. That's on him.

He was quality as a skinny weirdo. He will fill out naturally when he is 25-30.

[Del-icious]

He was quality as a skinny weirdo. He will fill out naturally when he is 25-30.

Hickey was skinny, plays serie A now

[Jeff Resnick]

Cochrane said it in a podcast interview.

Did he say it was because he couldnt be arsed or because he couldnt add to his physique?

[Snake Plissken]

Such a waste

Was it really worth blundering through the Championship to pass up a golden opportunity to give youth players a lot of game time?

[Groot]

7 years ago today deal was agreed with Bidco 

How far we've come 

[Rory Breaker]

Mind Connor Smith played out his skin in a derby and was dropped immediately, only to be recalled for one start at Parkhead?? It's insane.

That always sticks in my craw as he got thrown in  at the deep end and didn't look out of place at ER although his legs went in the second half and he got subbed.

Can't remember if we got our standard humping in the parkhead game but there was a clip of him turning players inside out.

Never seen in the first team again

Begbies points a good one, the games we choose to play these guys in are mental.

You'd think you'd play them in the “easier” games alongside an experienced player but we chuck them in against Ibrox and parkhead. Did it with Smith, Moore, Henderson, Brandon, Cochrane and probably others I've forgot

Was it Lewis Moore who used to appear every time we went to ibrox?
Truly bizarre

[Hank Scorpio]

Aye Moore at Ibrox was the norm. Such a stupid policy.

Is Connor Smith still here?

[Rory Breaker]

Aye Moore at Ibrox was the norm. Such a stupid policy.

Is Connor Smith still here?

Aye he's on loan at Arbroath as far as I know

[Socko]

Smith is apparently on loan at cove rangers now 

We don't have a plan for how to deal with our youngsters but we don't even have a plan for how to set up our first team each week either so it's hardly surprising. Putting levein in the dugout has set us back years.

[Shuto Makino]

Either every single young player we bring through g
has an attitude problem or the problem is elsewhere.

It's possible Cochrane's attitude is off, but when you look at how many young players we bring through seem to have a dodgy attitude that stops them fulfilling their potential (Walker and Nicholson stick out), it has to be down to something in the culture at the club.

[Mikey]

Cochrane is the biggest waste of a talented youth player I can remember. Balling at 16 and then bombed for 4 years

[Ando]

Either every single young player we bring through g
has an attitude problem or the problem is elsewhere.

It's possible Cochrane's attitude is off, but when you look at how many young players we bring through seem to have a dodgy attitude that stops them fulfilling their potential (Walker and Nicholson stick out), it has to be down to something in the culture at the club.

Was on a course ran by someone who had done some work with the coaches at Hearts. When chatting about it, he mentioned they thought Billy King had a bad attitude and refused to follow instructions. The work that this guy did was to try and show the coaches that there are different learning styles and communication techniques that are more (or less) effective with various people.

Could be entirely unrelated to your point, but to me it suggests that for all the talk of progressive, modern methods, there's actually a staid culture in the "football department".

[Rory Breaker]

Was on a course ran by someone who had done some work with the coaches at Hearts. When chatting about it, he mentioned they thought Billy King had a bad attitude and refused to follow instructions. The work that this guy did was to try and show the coaches that there are different learning styles and communication techniques that are more (or less) effective with various people.

Could be entirely unrelated to your point, but to me it suggests that for all the talk of progressive, modern methods, there's actually a staid culture in the "football department".

I ended up in Billy Kings company about 3 years ago on a night out at the festival and must say he was the most pleasant footballer I've ever met, he was polite enough to tolerate my hearts jammie wearing but also refused to slag the club or coaches despite his friends egging him on, pretty certain he was on loan at the time either to ICT or Rangers as well, absolutely loved Hearts

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

Billy King

Loved him The laddie was all end product 9 goals and 15 assists in the Championship season according to that transfer market site

[Zizou]

Did he say it was because he couldnt be arsed or because he couldnt add to his physique?

I never suggested he couldn't be arsed.

He definitely said in the interview, and I've seen it from Levein and Neilson as well, that Hearts wanted him to bulk up. For whatever reason it hasn't happened and that will be the reason he doesn't make it. You can draw your own conclusions on why he hasn't managed it but he has the best facilities and experts available to help.

[Shteve]

does cochrahe get a game at Montrose? I never thought he was good enough tbh, basically because of that freak win v celtic folk thought he was class.

[Socko]

I'd never have had Billy King down as one of the kids with an attitude problem.