Price of oil falls to almost half what the SNP estimated in the referendum

[Picards Forehead]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scotti...ic-4800452

I know its the Daily Retard but

the SNP's whole strategy was predicated on the price of oil being $113 per barrel, nearly double the current price.

To quote Mr Salmond: “Even with a cautious estimate of oil prices remaining at $113 a barrel, it's clear that Scottish oil and gas could generate three times more than official estimates.”

nearly double the current price.

nearly double the current price.

nearly double the current price.

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Nearly ruined this great country the cunts

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

Not seen that one shared by the cretins on my Facebook who are incessantly shoving the Wings Over Scotland propaganda down everyone's throats

[Groot]

Who in the name of fuck could consider $113 / barrel cautious, incompetent brain dead fat slobby looking cunt

Fucking ridiculous

[PHOODLE-OUt]

I shudder to think about the nick our economy would've been in such incompetent hands. Things are bad enough as it is just now.

[Picards Forehead]

I shudder to think about the nick our economy would've been in such incompetent hands. Things are bad enough as it is just now.

Luckily we never have to find out

[Patrick Bateman]

And what's the current level of UK debt, how was it accumulated and how/when will it be paid off?

Have you ever asked yourself these questions, or do you just wait for papers to spoon-feed you?

[Drederick Shanktum]

It's aw about the papers man, aw about the papers and their propaganda and that

[Patrick Bateman]

Why do people think oil prices have suddenly crashed? And how do they think the UK earns money?

Put it this way; I wouldn't be taking out a variable rate mortgage any time soon.

[Picards Forehead]

Why do people think oil prices have suddenly crashed? And how do they think the UK earns money?

Put it this way; I wouldn't be taking out a variable rate mortgage any time soon.

Nobody is saying that Westminster (largely new labour) didn't make a complete cunt of it doesn't take away from the fact that Salmond was blatantly talking out of his hoop with regards to the oil.

Or can you not comment on that until wings gives you a sound bite?

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Wings- x infinity

[Chrambo]

This ^

The amount of Yes spastics that recommended I read the 'impartial' Wee Blue Book

[Zizou]

Pro tip: there was to be an election after independence to decide the government. Salmond wasn't just going to shape the country into his vision.

[Picards Forehead]

Pro tip: there was to be an election after independence to decide the government. Salmond wasn't just going to shape the country into his vision.

Damage is done by that point. The only option for the other parties at that point would be to offer huge tax incentives to tech companies to build new industry. Still leaves us with oil worth half what Eck said it would be at a conservative estimate apparently

[Ray Winstone]

Pro tip: there was to be an election after independence to decide the government. Salmond wasn't just going to shape the country into his vision.

Independence would have been built on false hope pedalled by the SNP to begin with.

They are predicting at the moment that the barrel price could go as low as $40 a barrel. The Americans are putting pressure on sectors in the Middle East to continue production despite the price as it is crippling the Russian economy.

Wages and contractor rates have been cut, redundancies are being made across the support departments and the rig rates will have to fall a bit further before we see a recovery in the North Sea.

Same thing happened in 2008.

[Patrick Bateman]

Nobody is saying that Westminster (largely new labour) didn't make a complete cunt of it doesn't take away from the fact that Salmond was blatantly talking out of his hoop with regards to the oil.

Or can you not comment on that until wings gives you a sound bite?

'Talking out of his hoop' - As oil is a finite resource, it stands to reason that its value will increase. The drop in oil prices is more to do with economic warfare than anything else. It isn't and won't be sustainable. Scotland's economy is actually pretty robust and sustainable without oil. If it wasn't, then why are similar/smaller countries with the same/less resources (Luxembourg, Denmark, Finland) better places to live?

This debate was always about where power was best placed to lie. Unfortunately, a majority was bullied and deceived into thinking that Scotland wasn't capable of sustaining itself and that we're better off at the whim of Hedge Funds and Private Equity groups, rather than governing ourselves fully. I realise this point may be beyond some, but we crossed the Rubicon thanks to the referendum; as Sir Tom Devine stated; this union is, has and will continue to dissolve.

Anyway, pointing to a drop in the price of oil and trying to use it as 'evidence' of how Scotland couldn't be independent, or how Yes Scotland/The SNP were 'lying' or anything similar just makes you look a bit ignorant, tbh.

[Del-icious]

Scotland wouldn't be independent at the moment anyway so not sure why the oil price at this time is relevant?

[Groot]

Bateman, tell us more about the tax rates and cost of living in the 3 countries you mentioned, after that please compare that to what it would be in an Independant Scotland.

After you've done that list 3 equally sized countries who are in fact really comparable with Scotland

Cheers

[Picards Forehead]

Anyway, pointing to a drop in the price of oil and trying to use it as 'evidence' of how Scotland couldn't be independent, or how Yes Scotland/The SNP were 'lying' or anything similar just makes you look a bit ignorant, tbh.

So trying to say the price of oil will always be at least twice what it is right now to mislead voters into independence is fine by you is it? Cool

The quote about the oil just shows the guy would say anything that he thought working class cretins would lap up. He did it throughout the campaign whilst attacking the Westminster goons for scaremongering by attempting to pull him up on it.

I have never said that Scotland couldn't be independent. I (and I would say a large percentage of "the 55" ) were open to being persuaded by the White paper. Rather than a viable plan for the future we got a fantasy land salmond wish list full of assumptions and gaping holes (we will make everyone do what we want cos sovereign will ken). Yes voters will try and say "oh well after independence you can vote for whoever you want" in reality we all know that the SNP would have had the chance to try and implement this cluster fuck of a plan for our country.

The SNP boys at the government were too busy to get ready in good time for the powers they were already getting from the agreement in 2012 (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/...tax-powers). Maybe they should focus on actually making use of what they are getting rather than moaning about what they aren't?

I look forward to hearing your pie in the sky comeback about how we are better than Luxembourg and how scotland would be such a better place to live. It's easy to imagine a utopia when you don't have to actually explain how you will implement it. The reality is often rather different. Although I'm not surprised you were taken in by the shiny promises, luckily the majority of the Scottish people had more sense.

[I.J]

Needs more Gorgiewave, tbh.