Which 'TV box set' are you currently watching?

[Rory Breaker]

And Nicolas Lyndhurst is in Frasier.

Still won't watch it. Same for Ted Lasso, Mrs Maisel. They had their run and they ended, some better than others. If they want to do a spin-off and try something different then i'd consider it but i've no interest in getting the band back together.

Is Ted Lasso any good? Planning to give it a try

[Socko]

Is Ted Lasso any good? Planning to give it a try

It was a nice bit of light relief during the covid era to begin with then it disappeared fully up its own arse imo. The most recent season was interminable.

[Edson Arantes 2Nascimento]

Is Ted Lasso any good? Planning to give it a try

Pretty much as socko puts it. It's got an ethos, a vibe and it stays true to that. Ted is a beautiful character, but covid certainly allowed for that to really hit. He smiles through adversity. Not in a Judy Garland way, because if you didn't you'd cry but because life is, actually, beautiful. It's warmed over mindfulness - can't change the past, the future hasn't happened, so deal with the present and the present, this exact moment, is usually pretty good.

Now, that does have a capacity to escape up its own arse but it's 30 odd half hour episodes. Most of them funny and pleasant.

Mrs Maisel is better. That and Hacks. Both basically telling Joan Rivers' story.

[Grooto Toure]

https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/statu...81899?s=46

This looks interesting

[Zizou]

The new scrubs is class takes me right back.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

Watched that manosphere doc by Theroux. Maybe not his best work but quite enjoying the usual sit back and let these clowns out themselves.

Struggle to understand the vehemently pro MAGA but Jews control the world patter they all come out with though.

[Zizou]

Watched it as well. Quite good but something about the production didn’t feel vintage Theroux.

What a cunt that HS Tikky Tokky is. Dear oh dear.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

Watched it as well. Quite good but something about the production didn’t feel vintage Theroux.

What a cunt that HS Tikky Tokky is. Dear oh dear.

Said that as well, don’t think it had any sort of BBC affiliation.

Feel they sort of just glossed over the part where him and his mates knocked fuck out a random boy they set up. It didn’t seem like they were pretending to be underage?

[audioslave]

Basically just 4Chan posters in real life

[Edson Arantes 2Nascimento]

The theorux doc seemed a bit underbaked. He never really got dug in to any of the scared little boys manfluencers. I suppose he's not really been able to do that with anyone media savvy for quite a while now. That said, the reason these people have been able to grow beyond the fringes of society is because we don't have a mono-culture anymore and the checks placed upon fame are blurred; there's no adults in the room. By putting this out as effectively heritage media it gets seen by a far wider group of people and these little wanks in their ganghut get shown up for the losers they are.

Theroux also needs to realise people are going to have queries about israel and saville and be able to defuse them and move on because he was utterly thrown.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

Don’t think he was necessarily thrown by it tbh. He just doesn’t get dragged into stupid arguments and let folk try to deflect from themselves onto him. If you start to argue about it you’re almost accepting there’s some sort of legitimacy in what they’re saying and suddenly you’re talking about yourself rather than him. It reminded me of when he went out to speak to some neo Nazis in America and he refused to answer whether he was Jewish or not.

Theroux’ work speaks for itself that he is not pro Israel or Jimmy savilles mate, he doesn’t have to get into it with some clown acting up for a chat feed on kick who’s getting triggered by his questioning. It was an extremely bad faith take and he has nothing to gain from trying to justify himself to someone who is never going to accept what he says anyway. That’s the difference between Theroux and HSTikkytokky, he is sure of himself and knows who he is and doesn’t have to perform for others.

Was pishing myself at all the clips of HS having a meltdown and lashing out at Theroux’ character because others were saying he was fucked before the documentary even aired. Incredibly self conscious guy.

[Edson Arantes 2Nascimento]

I'm not saying he needs to justify it or win the argument, but he was derailed and the conversation broke down. If he wants to keep having conversations with people then he'll need to be able to deal with it.

He must've known it was coming. It'll be discussed in production meetings and it seems the planned response was 'look sheepish'.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

How do you engage with anti semites like that though? It all comes from Jews control the media which he exposes a bit later on in the doc from these guys - he is never going to engage in they sort of discussions with them and nothing he could ever say would get that conversation back on track as HS has decided he’s had enough of being pressed and he’s going to lash out. We know these types don’t respond to logical debates/arguments.

I don’t think the doc as a whole was his best work but I don’t think I’d criticise him for that part either. He had nothing to gain from getting into it, his style isn’t really to press back it’s to let folk spout their shite and crucify themselves which is what HS did imo. I think he handled that part fine.

[Edson Arantes 2Nascimento]

How do you engage with anti semites like that though?  It all comes from Jews control the media which he exposes a bit later on in the doc from these guys - he is never going to engage in they sort of discussions with them and nothing he could ever say would get that conversation back on track as HS has decided he’s had enough of being pressed and he’s going to lash out.  We know these types don’t respond to logical debates/arguments.

I don’t think the doc as a whole was his best work but I don’t think I’d criticise him for that part either.  He had nothing to gain from getting into it, his style isn’t really to press back it’s to let folk spout their shite and crucify themselves which is what HS did imo.  I think he handled that part fine.

What has saville got to do with anti-semitism? He was completely unprepared and all he had in response was a clip from a different time of his mum cleaning the floor after he was incapable.

The whole point of theroux is the awkward silence after the guest says something awful, and now it's his uncomfortable silence after the guest highlights him. It's like angus deaton on hignfy; after the scandal he couldn't hold people accountable and theroux is in that territory now.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

He’s just chucked Saville in there as bait because it’s a bit extra to insinuate he’s a paedo as well. The clip is asking him if he thinks Israel is committing genocide after he feels pressed by the questioning, Louis Theroux pauses for half a second before HS goes on a big tirade saying the Jews are his daddy, Saville is his daddy, he is controlled etc. There’s another clip where Theroux says his work helped to expose Saville (assuming he means the second doc) and HS wasn’t interested in engaging with it, just wanted to tar him with the paedo brush.

How does HS come out of that with the upper hand though? He looks like an absolute idiot wee boy who is incapable of regulating himself Theroux actually goes on to say the UN have built a very strong case to call it a genocide and in his opinion there’s no getting away from it being ethnic cleaning so he doesn’t avoid it entirely he just doesn’t get dragged into the shite.

There’s no space for nuanced discussion here though, HS wouldn’t even accept Theroux coming out with a strong rebuke condemning Israel in the harshest terms because he doesn’t want to hear it all he wants to do is shut down the previous line of questions about his police case. No amount of preparation would’ve changed that interaction. Theroux has to be careful how he responds as he’s got 2 documentaries exposing Israel, real work that goes far beyond whatever that wee anti semite has done as his work could be entirely written off if he’s seen to be biased. Some manosphere rage baiter looking to stitch you up is not the place to get into these things.

[Edson Arantes 2Nascimento]

Why is your assumption he has to 'get in to it'? What he has to do is control the discussion and he was totally lost. His producer stepped in for heaven's sake.

At that moment, Louis looked like the lost little boy. And it'll happen again and again and again. Anytime he's got someone up against the ropes they can just jump to that and he'll be lost again.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

That’s not how I felt it came across but fair enough

[Konnichiwa You Cunt]

The theorux doc seemed a bit underbaked. He never really got dug in to any of the scared little boys manfluencers. I suppose he's not really been able to do that with anyone media savvy for quite a while now. That said, the reason these people have been able to grow beyond the fringes of society is because we don't have a mono-culture anymore and the checks placed upon fame are blurred; there's no adults in the room. By putting this out as effectively heritage media it gets seen by a far wider group of people and these little wanks in their ganghut get shown up for the losers they are.

Theroux also needs to realise people are going to have queries about israel and saville and be able to defuse them and move on because he was utterly thrown.

Underbaked is exactly how I would describe it. Didn’t really tell you anything new and the whole way through they were clearly trying to build towards Theroux meeting Andrew Tate, then when they couldn’t get Tate on board they kept the same structure but the big finale instead was HSTikkyTokky and his mum? Quite weak imo.

Also didn’t think every new character needed to be introduced by telling us it had taken lots and lots of emails for them to agree to be in the doc!!! I guess that’s what happens when you get Netflix involved though.

[1500 Dollars a Day]

Underbaked is exactly how I would describe it. Didn’t really tell you anything new and the whole way through they were clearly trying to build towards Theroux meeting Andrew Tate, then when they couldn’t get Tate on board they kept the same structure but the big finale instead was HSTikkyTokky and his mum? Quite weak imo.

Also didn’t think every new character needed to be introduced by telling us it had taken lots and lots of emails for them to agree to be in the doc!!! I guess that’s what happens when you get Netflix involved though.

I mind Netflix chucked a load of money at nature docs (can’t mind if they actually got Attenborough or just copied the format) but it felt exactly the same as the Theroux one.

Not sure where it goes wrong as the formats are almost identical but just feels it lacks a lot compared to the originals. The footage they used was stunning but it just felt empty for example. On Theroux I thought the settlers was some of his best work in comparison so not sure it’s a case of him being past it.

We were chatting about it this morning and he didn’t really go into the damaging effects of these guys, people who know about them learn nothing new and folk who don’t know about them probably don’t realise the extent of the damage they’re doing to younger folk.

[Zizou]

I think that HS cunt having zero respect for Louis and battering that boy rattled him a little bit. In his previously docs the people usually aren’t media savvy and are quite flattered to be featured in a doc but there were parts of this where you could read between the lines that the were taking the piss out of him constantly on live streams and all that nonsense.

Still did a good job of showing how pathetic they are, but these wasters don’t care.