One of the more :wiggo:-worthy things you'll read today.

[The Comedian]

It's dire stuff. How many of these howlers skip by or are made in private? At least this has been highlighted.

Our game has suffered for years from the 'git it up the perk' mentality and it's obviously still there. Hopefully Brian McLair has taken note.

[Drederick Shanktum]

He's built like a brick shit house as well. Look how Real helped give Bale gainz.

[Billy Butcher]

Craig Brown is a senile old cunt who is a stain on the Scottish game. His comments earlier had me a seething mess

[Snake Plissken]

Embarrassing but hardly surprising stuff.

Surely the whole point of youth internationals is developing players for the senior side, not results. Winning matches is all well and good but the real measure of success is in how many players go on to become full internationalists.

Loading up youth teams probably with big, physical players probably works quite well in tournaments but that doesn`t mean they`ll become decent players. I remember Scotland got to the final of the 2006 U-19 championships, losing to Spain, so decided to look and see how many players "made it" on each side.

On the Scotland team, only Lee Wallace and Graham Dorrans got senior caps and the rest of them never even got close. Most of them are lower league journeymen now, some of them are playing non-league football.

The Spanish team had Pique and Mata in it and Mario Squarez, Javi Garcia and Diego Capel got a few senior appearances. All of the squad are still playing full-time professional football in Spain.

Obviously there`s going to be more talent in the Spain side and there`s a always going to be a high turnover of players at youth level but it is telling that so few of the class of 2006 actually made it as footballers. It seems the focus on physicality over technique does the trick at youth level, but once those smaller, more technical players fill out a bit, they`ve got a lot more to their game.

[Billy Butcher]

Pumped out

Time to leave, Ricky.

[Picards Forehead]

Pumped out

Time to leave, Ricky.

but we had big strong runners though

[Sarkozabal]

1-1 for the last 25 minutes and we couldn't find a goal because our best player is sitting on his arse in Madrid

Time to bring Jack Ross in IMO.

[Walter Sobchak]

Missed this farce as I was away, but can only echo the thoughts of everyone else in the thread. What a shambles.

[Array]

Sad for him that Brian McClair was too old for this one - he was ever such a strong runner as well.

[Roger H. Sterling]

Missed this farce as I was away, but can only echo the thoughts of everyone else in the thread. What a shambles.

Were you away, m8?

[Walter Sobchak]

Na, I was actually in my bedsit without an internet connection.