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Batman vs Superman

Batman vs Superman
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04-18-2015, 12:16 PM
They do seem to garner lots of praise from sheepy people who think watching the big bang theory makes them a geek
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04-18-2015, 12:17 PM
...but mainly I think Ben Affleck is brilliant so I wish he would stop pissing about with kids films and get back to proper films like Argo and Gone Girl Greggy
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04-18-2015, 12:24 PM
(04-18-2015, 11:54 AM)Morph Wrote: Fair enough, that's why put the question mark as i wasn't sure.

But aye, as i said i don't think it's harmful to the film industry at all.  There may be more of them being churned out but there's still fantastic films out there for everyone.  It's not like a director like Spielberg is about to release an absolute game changer then pies it because comic book hero films are doing well.


Of course it's impacting on the range of films being made and released Warnock There are only a certain number of major film studios, and they can only finance/promote a finite number of releases each year. The saturation of superhero movies means that other projects are competing for fewer spots at the table. No different to some other eras, though, like when swords and sandals epics or war epics were all the rage.

I actually really enjoy the majority of them, so it doesn't bother me, and there is always the argument that the profits they make will trickle down to fund other projects (/Osborneeconomics). The point where folk get sick of them is definitely coming though, they've managed to keep it up for an impressive period already and that's mainly due to the quality of the films they're churning out, but they've already rebooted Spider-Man just a decade after the Sam Raimi ones, which goes to show the ideas well is running drier.
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04-18-2015, 12:24 PM
(04-18-2015, 11:58 AM)Nicolas Sarkozy Wrote: 'Too many superhero comics' isn't the same as 'too many books' Warnock Superhero comics are a relatively small genre which are made into films at an extremely high rate. I'll be amazed if you name another genre of books which are adapted as regularly.

I'd definitely say that they're creating a saturation. I quite liked Iron Man, but do I need to see the same character again in two sequels and two (maybe three) Avengers films? No. I thought the Avengers was pretty poor as well so I definitely don't think each major character needs to have a series of his own.

I haven't seen Guardians of the Galaxy but it gets quite good reviews and that sounds like much more of the way it should be done. If you've got lesser known characters, stick a group of them together and make a good film. What you don't need to do is start doing films with the individual characters on the back of it. That's when it starts to be kicking the arse out of it.


Guardians of the Galaxy wasn't them chucking a load of characters together it's a comic book franchise in its own right.

As for the others it was always the plan to make an Avengers film so they decided to introduce them all individually rather than throwing them all in together then try to fit in each back story.

Not a fan of Superman and most of the DC characters outside of Batman and can see this and the following Justice League being fucking disasters.
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04-18-2015, 12:28 PM
Will probably flop.
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04-18-2015, 12:29 PM
This illustrates how ridiculous it's become.

http://grantland.com/features/2014-holly...ox-office/
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04-18-2015, 12:31 PM
(04-18-2015, 12:16 PM)2NaFish Wrote: They do seem to garner lots of praise from sheepy people who think watching the big bang theory makes them a geek


Know a few like that. Went to a wedding once where the table plans etc were all superhero themed. Never mentioned anything to do with comics before but now proudly self identify as geeks. Fucking cunts!
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04-18-2015, 12:35 PM
Roger was no doubt the guy who was defending all the Alien Vs Predator movies.
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04-18-2015, 12:36 PM
Totally agree with the point about movies becoming extended trailers for the next movie. It is commercialism run rampant, in an industry which was always all commercialism.
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04-18-2015, 12:42 PM
(04-18-2015, 12:31 PM)Chris Benoit Wrote: Know a few like that. Went to a wedding once where the table plans etc were all superhero themed. Never mentioned anything to do with comics before but now proudly self identify as geeks. Fucking cunts!


See it all the time on FB etc - folk who can't string a sentence together and are obsessed with makeup, appearance and that all of a sudden saying they're geeks. No you're fucking not matey. Laugh
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04-18-2015, 12:43 PM
(04-18-2015, 11:58 AM)Nicolas Sarkozy Wrote: 'Too many superhero comics' isn't the same as 'too many books' Warnock Superhero comics are a relatively small genre which are made into films at an extremely high rate. I'll be amazed if you name another genre of books which are adapted as regularly.

I'd definitely say that they're creating a saturation. I quite liked Iron Man, but do I need to see the same character again in two sequels and two (maybe three) Avengers films? No. I thought the Avengers was pretty poor as well so I definitely don't think each major character needs to have a series of his own.

I haven't seen Guardians of the Galaxy but it gets quite good reviews and that sounds like much more of the way it should be done. If you've got lesser known characters, stick a group of them together and make a good film. What you don't need to do is start doing films with the individual characters on the back of it. That's when it starts to be kicking the arse out of it.

Wait, so you say "I think it's a genre that has potential to make some really good films, which is why it annoys me because I find it all quite samey at the moment." Yet you haven't even seen Guardians of the Galaxy? I'm not even sure how you're forming your opinions at this point.

The teenage dystopia genre of books is one that's been adapted pretty regularly at the moment.
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04-18-2015, 01:31 PM
(04-18-2015, 12:43 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: Wait, so you say "I think it's a genre that has potential to make some really good films, which is why it annoys me because I find it all quite samey at the moment." Yet you haven't even seen Guardians of the Galaxy? I'm not even sure how you're forming your opinions at this point.

The teenage dystopia genre of books is one that's been adapted pretty regularly at the moment.

That's part of my point though. If GotG had come out 10 years ago, it would have been quite exciting and I probably would have gone to see it at the cinema. Today though the superhero thing has been done to death to the extent that I've had a DVD of it in my flat since New Year and haven't even bothered watching it.
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04-18-2015, 01:40 PM (Edited 04-18-2015, 01:41 PM by Edson Arantes 2Nascimento.)
There's a great Kermode article about the economics of Summer Blockbusters and how, barring the biggest flops, they all turn a profit. They are as safe as they are inane and comic book movies are the same. Put simply, they've already ripped the arse out of what is actually a niche and it gets to the point that the artistic reason for their being - the realization of a comic as a movie - is superseded by the need to make standard summer blockbusters for people who would be as happy watching Cowboys and Aliens or Battleship as they are watching Thor 7:Thor Buys Some Pineapple Chunks.

Meanwhile the ability to make good comic book films for comic book fans falls by the wayside.
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04-18-2015, 05:02 PM (Edited 04-18-2015, 05:03 PM by Herzog.)
(04-18-2015, 12:29 PM)Sterling Archer Wrote: This illustrates how ridiculous it's become.

http://grantland.com/features/2014-holly...ox-office/

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