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Skin Heads v Casuals

Skin Heads v Casuals
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07-20-2015, 09:19 AM
No it's not a who do you think would win out the two!

The thread on the Preston game got me thinking. I recall being around 6-7 and being taken to games with my dad when skinheads had pretty large numbers. I recall several games involving trouble however I clearly recall the derbies when they'd go charging passed looking for bother. I also clearly remember our support effectively shouting for them to 'kill the hibby bastards' and other words to that effect. I definitely don't recall a loathing or disgust at these individuals or their actions. In fact whenever a thread appears that mentions them you never see them being run down and people even generally have a laugh about their antics.

Fast forward a decade to the 80's and the emergence of the casual and it was a different matter. I clearly remember the general feel amongst our supporters as being a hatred/dislike for the casuals in our support along with the songs sung towards them.

Other teams seemed to accept their casuals/hooligan element as they had done their skinheads! I guess the question is why didn't we? Had they simply been a continuation of the skinhead and shaved their heads, dressed in doc martins, jeans and bomber jacket would attitudes towards them have been different?

I appreciate times change and attitudes change however did people not take to them merely because they seemed more Spandau Ballet than a bit rough n tumble?
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07-20-2015, 09:23 AM
wot
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07-20-2015, 09:25 AM
(07-20-2015, 09:23 AM)Acey Wrote: wot

^^ Skinhead 
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07-20-2015, 09:27 AM
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07-20-2015, 09:30 AM
(07-20-2015, 09:19 AM)Praten Stront Wrote: No it's not a who do you think would win out the two!

The thread on the Preston game got me thinking. I recall being around 6-7 and being taken to games with my dad when skinheads had pretty large numbers. I recall several games involving trouble however I clearly recall the derbies when they'd go charging passed looking for bother. I also clearly remember our support effectively shouting for them to 'kill the hibby bastards' and other words to that effect. I definitely don't recall a loathing or disgust at these individuals or their actions. In fact whenever a thread appears that mentions them you never see them being run down and people even generally have a laugh about their antics.

Fast forward a decade to the 80's and the emergence of the casual and it was a different matter. I clearly remember the general feel amongst our supporters as being a hatred/dislike for the casuals in our support along with the songs sung towards them.

Other teams seemed to accept their casuals/hooligan element as they had done their skinheads! I guess the question is why didn't we? Had they simply been a continuation of the skinhead and shaved their heads, dressed in doc martins, jeans and bomber jacket would attitudes towards them have been different?

I appreciate times change and attitudes change however did people not take to them merely because they seemed more Spandau Ballet than a bit rough n tumble?

You say your 36?

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07-20-2015, 09:40 AM
(07-20-2015, 09:19 AM)Praten Stront Wrote: No it's not a who do you think would win out the two!

The thread on the Preston game got me thinking. I recall being around 6-7 and being taken to games with my dad when skinheads had pretty large numbers. I recall several games involving trouble however I clearly recall the derbies when they'd go charging passed looking for bother. I also clearly remember our support effectively shouting for them to 'kill the hibby bastards' and other words to that effect. I definitely don't recall a loathing or disgust at these individuals or their actions. In fact whenever a thread appears that mentions them you never see them being run down and people even generally have a laugh about their antics.

Fast forward a decade to the 80's and the emergence of the casual and it was a different matter. I clearly remember the general feel amongst our supporters as being a hatred/dislike for the casuals in our support along with the songs sung towards them.

Other teams seemed to accept their casuals/hooligan element as they had done their skinheads! I guess the question is why didn't we? Had they simply been a continuation of the skinhead and shaved their heads, dressed in doc martins, jeans and bomber jacket would attitudes towards them have been different?

I appreciate times change and attitudes change however did people not take to them merely because they seemed more Spandau Ballet than a bit rough n tumble?

Why not make your name Protestant instead of the word jumble Praten stront?

Where you bricking it that you'd get banned? Laugh
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07-20-2015, 10:27 AM
Not sure if I've quoted the two posts correctly.

I'm 46 not 36. If it's saying differently I'm not sure what's happened.

S.J. Are you being serious that Praten Stront was an attempt to disguise by way of some crappy anagram the word Protestant? It's not and it's Dutch.
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07-20-2015, 10:30 AM
Protestannt - the new Fodithmann.
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07-20-2015, 10:30 AM
What you know about skinhead culture wouldn't fill the back of a postage stamp.

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07-20-2015, 10:32 AM
I don't know anything about either of these groups.

Quick someone tell me what side I should be on!
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07-20-2015, 10:35 AM
(07-20-2015, 09:19 AM)Praten Stront Wrote: No it's not a who do you think would win out the two!

The thread on the Preston game got me thinking. I recall being around 6-7 and being taken to games with my dad when skinheads had pretty large numbers. I recall several games involving trouble however I clearly recall the derbies when they'd go charging passed looking for bother. I also clearly remember our support effectively shouting for them to 'kill the hibby bastards' and other words to that effect. I definitely don't recall a loathing or disgust at these individuals or their actions. In fact whenever a thread appears that mentions them you never see them being run down and people even generally have a laugh about their antics.

Fast forward a decade to the 80's and the emergence of the casual and it was a different matter. I clearly remember the general feel amongst our supporters as being a hatred/dislike for the casuals in our support along with the songs sung towards them.

Other teams seemed to accept their casuals/hooligan element as they had done their skinheads! I guess the question is why didn't we? Had they simply been a continuation of the skinhead and shaved their heads, dressed in doc martins, jeans and bomber jacket would attitudes towards them have been different?

I appreciate times change and attitudes change however did people not take to them merely because they seemed more Spandau Ballet than a bit rough n tumble?

I've been a skinhead and been involved in skinhead culture since my teens (as well as flirting with mod and rockabilly culture...but I always return to the skinhead) and this cartoon, comic book vision of the scene really hacks me off.

Your description of the clothing alone is just bogus.

I was at the game in Preston on Saturday in full skinhead gear; brogues, selvedge denim, Mikkel Rude shirt, mac and a number one crop (not a shaved head). The true skinhead is the best dressed and most detail obsessed of any British subculture. Your image of boneheads in bomber jackets is just a Daily Mail stereotype.

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07-20-2015, 10:46 AM
(07-20-2015, 09:30 AM)Umberto Lenzi Wrote: You say your 36?

(07-20-2015, 10:35 AM)Mozzer Wrote: I've been a skinhead and been involved in skinhead culture since my teens (as well as flirting with mod and rockabilly culture...but I always return to the skinhead) and this cartoon, comic book vision of the scene really hacks me off.

Your description of the clothing alone is just bogus.

I was at the game in Preston on Saturday in full skinhead gear; brogues, selvedge denim, Mikkel Rude shirt, mac and a number one crop (not a shaved head).  The true skinhead is the best dressed and most detail obsessed of any British subculture.  Your image of boneheads in bomber jackets is just a Daily Mail stereotype.

Mozzer

I wasn't a skinhead nor did I claim to have inside knowledge of them or how they dress. I posted asking a question however you've taken it as an insult merely because I missed out most of the important attire associated with the serious skinheads. I was young and wasn't a reader of the daily mail. I do however have very fond memories early 80's on derby day walking along Gorgie Rd whilst a green Eastern Scottish went passed with every top window done in and hearts skinheads singing out of most windows. From what I could see most had bomber jackets on. I was laughing far too much to ask if any were wearing rude shits nor could I see if they were wearing brogues.

You've continued to drone on about stereotyping whilst missing the question completely!

Why were skinheads seemingly more acceptable than casuals?
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07-20-2015, 10:48 AM
(07-20-2015, 10:35 AM)Mozzer Wrote: I was at the game in Preston on Saturday in full skinhead gear; brogues, selvedge denim, Mikkel Rude shirt, mac and a number one crop (not a shaved head).

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07-20-2015, 10:48 AM
(07-20-2015, 10:46 AM)Praten Stront Wrote: I wasn't a skinhead nor did I claim to have inside knowledge of them or how they dress. I posted asking a question however you've taken it as an insult merely because I missed out most of the important attire associated with the serious skinheads. I was young and wasn't a reader of the daily mail. I do however have very fond memories early 80's on derby day walking along Gorgie Rd whilst a green Eastern Scottish went passed with every top window done in and hearts skinheads singing out of most windows. From what I could see most had bomber jackets on. I was laughing far too much to ask if any were wearing rude shits nor could I see if they were wearing brogues.

You've continued to drone on about stereotyping whilst missing the question completely!

Why were skinheads seemingly more acceptable than casuals?

You're an idiot.

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07-20-2015, 10:51 AM (Edited 07-20-2015, 10:53 AM by CritchSmile.)
(07-20-2015, 10:46 AM)Praten Stront Wrote: Why were skinheads seemingly more acceptable than casuals?

Your question seems to be:

Why has it become progressively less acceptable within society, for groups of folk to turn up to a sporting event and kick fuck out of people?

It's because people in the 70s and 80s were in the main; racist, thick cunts and now they are in the minority.
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07-20-2015, 10:55 AM
(07-20-2015, 10:51 AM)S.J. Wrote: Your question seems to be:

Why has it become progressively less acceptable within society, for groups of folk to turn up to a sporting event and kick fuck out of people?

It's because people in the 70s and 80s were in the main; racist, thick cunts and now they are in the minority.

It also seems to be saying, "why did i have a childlike understanding of things when i was six, but realise that violence was potentially unpleasant when i was 16?"
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07-20-2015, 10:55 AM
(07-20-2015, 10:51 AM)S.J. Wrote: Your question seems to be:

Why has it become progressively less acceptable within society, for groups of folk to turn up to a sporting event and kick fuck out of people?

It's because people in the 70s and 80s were in the main; racist, thick cunts and now they are in the minority.

Absolutely 100% correct.

I reckon you and I could become quite good mates SJ.

Fancy a coffee?

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07-20-2015, 10:56 AM
(07-20-2015, 10:55 AM)2NaFish Wrote: It also seems to be saying, "why did i have a childlike understanding of things when i was six, but realise that violence was potentially unpleasant when i was 16?"

Want to come with me and SJ for a coffee 2NaFish?

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07-20-2015, 10:56 AM
(07-20-2015, 10:30 AM)Vlad-Stupid Wrote: Protestannt - the new Fodithmann.

It's actually Prrotestannt
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07-20-2015, 10:57 AM
(07-20-2015, 10:56 AM)The Great Khali Wrote: It's actually Prrotestannt

It turns out Praten Stront is Dutch for "talk shit".

So fair play, he has got one thing spot on.
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