'Wings Over TalkHearts' Politics Thread

[Shuto Makino]

Yeah, the Labour right's whole shtick since 2020 has been 'we're more interested in winning elections than winning the argument', so it misses the mark a bit to go on about the 'fewer votes' thing tbf - they played the system in the way they always said they were going to.

At the same time, they should be very concerned by how low the turnout/their share of the registered vote was. A few concessions from the Tories to Farage and it only needs some fairly small swings for them to lose it all again to a radicalised far-right Tory party in 2029. Especially now we've seen that well organised independent campaigns can run close or even beat Labour's big names.

[Snake Plissken]

Coasting on not being as cartoonishly awful as the other lot might win an election in the short term but it's pretty much guaranteed to disappoint the voting public when they get in power. I feel like the UK (arguably the whole Western world) is on a similar trajectory as the States - milquetoast neoliberals barely keeping the far right at bay and doing absolutely nothing about the root causes.

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect the Tories will get back in in five years, if not sooner.

[Shuto Makino]

Popular Front fuckin won in France

[Huevo en Mi Cara]

Never in doubt




Guessing macrons party will prop up the PF but will replace him as president?

[KartumaFish]

Never in doubt




Guessing macrons party will prop up the PF but will replace him as president?

A better lawyer than the th legal eagles and more insight into French politics than mak, you're some laddie

[Shuto Makino]

Never in doubt




Guessing macrons party will prop up the PF but will replace him as president?

He remains President regardless - these were legislative elections and the next presidential election isn't until 2027. His party can't remove him. He could technically resign, but I really can't see that at all.

What comes now is basically that the nation is very difficult to govern: the PF are the biggest group (assuming the union holds), but nowhere near a majority (which would need 289 deputies). Too much bad blood there for anyone to build a working majority via a coalition, I think, and some highly ranked members of Macron's party (including a former Prime Minister) have ruled out working with the left (or the far right). At best, I think there'll be legislation passed on a case-by-case basis.

Seeing some absolute dogshit analysis of this from British journalists btw Do not let anyone tell you this is a triumph for Macron. He's gone from biggest party to second-biggest, a catastrophe was averted because the left and many of his own party agreed to stand candidates down in constituencies where someone else was better placed to beat the RN (something Macron apparently argued against - this was mainly the doing of PM Gabriel Attal, who has now resigned), and the RN has still hugely increased its amount of deputies (they only got 7 in 2017, 89 in 2022, now up to 130-150 today). This is a humiliation for him.

[Son of a Critch]

Sad to see Mak’s myopic hatred of papa Macron colour his “analysis” quite so much.

[Shuto Makino]

fuck up baldy

[Zizou]

Andrew Neil’s quite a funny read. He’s absolutely seething about it.

[Son of a Critch]

:vrface:

[Charlie Kelly]

He's just called Kamala "vice president Trump"

Fucking hell

[Son of a Critch]

https://twitter.com/BehizyTweets/status/...0770020737

Literally, head's gone Just quietly get rid ffs.

[Drederick Shanktum]

I know Biden is old and should be replaced but trumps doing the exact same things, saying similar things and nothing is being made of it. The Russian troll farms and billionaires who own the media clearly fancy 4 years of trump and the theocracy he will usher in

[Shteve]

Let the aul bastart die in peace. Dear me.

[Shuto Makino]

trumps doing the exact same things, saying similar things

This is factually incorrect.

[CritchSmile]

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I know Biden is old and should be replaced but trumps doing the exact same things, saying similar things and nothing is being made of it. The Russian troll farms and billionaires who own the media clearly fancy 4 years of trump and the theocracy he will usher in

Trumps mind is pretty sharp, comes out with some doozy one liners from time to time.

[KartumaFish]

Trumps mind is pretty sharp, comes out with some doozy one liners from time to time.

The terrible things trump says are all intentional.

[Drederick Shanktum]

This is factually incorrect.

He was saying don jr was married the other day, he’s not. Thought he was up against Obama in 2016.

These not similar types of gaffes?

[Shuto Makino]

Trump is also an old guy who is losing a mind that wasn't the sharpest to begin with, but if you're having to reach back eight years then that tells its own story. Biden isn't just doing it in every outing; he can barely finish a sentence. You're living on another planet if you think that equates to 'doing the exact same things'.

[pondlife]

Aye, like Tramp gies a fuck whether Don jr is married was married or never marrid at all, it's irrelvant in the grand scheme of things. The intoduction of Zelensky as Putin is pure zlat!