'Wings Over TalkHearts' Politics Thread

[Walter Sobchak]

Sums it up.

[shaun.lawson]

The strong and stable thing gets mocked, but it is that repetitive, simple and safe sort of rhetoric that seems to appeal to voters.

Corbyn just does not have that with idiots like Diane Abbot doing the talking.

They're incredibly, terrifyingly good at it. In 2015, voters were left confused and basically not knowing what Miliband stood for: his core message constantly changed. No such chickenshit hesitancy from the Tories; their message discipline is amazing, essentially because they're ruthless bastards who know their game inside out.

[Walter Sobchak]

Short version here:

[PHOODLE-OUt]

Corbyn knows he won't win this election, that's why he's come out with such a fanciful manifesto. He knows none of it adds up and will get torn to shreds over the next 4 weeks but the aim of it will be to make a bit of ground and keep their current voters. He'll easily take over 30% of the popular vote I reckon. Just a shame that Labour didn't have somebody in charge just now to tap in the countless open goals the Tories have given him.

[CritchSmile]

Gramsci's prison notebooks on cultural hegemony explains most of what chomsky expresses in the Marr interview.

[shaun.lawson]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...ough-video

Pretty staggering viewing, this.

[CritchSmile]

Shaun loves election time because The Guardian boots up their poverty porn roadshow bus to see what the rest of Britain looks like.

What's staggering about it? Fairly standard austerity-rooted issues replicated all across the country.

Maybe if The Guardian pushed this 52 weeks a year it may have some traction, but the poverty porn bus will be put back in the garage until the next election/referendum.

[PHOODLE-OUt]

Scott is right. Nobody gives a shit about things like the NHS or Poverty unless there is an election.

[shaun.lawson]

Shaun loves election time because The Guardian boots up their poverty porn roadshow bus to see what the rest of Britain looks like.

What's staggering about it? Fairly standard austerity-rooted issues replicated all across the country.

Maybe if The Guardian pushed this 52 weeks a year it may have some traction, but the poverty porn bus will be put back in the garage until the next election/referendum.

That isn't what's staggering. What's staggering is people being affected horrendously by cuts - basically having any quality of life wrecked - then for the first time in their lives, voting Tory.

Oh, and John Harris pushes this stuff all the time. I think him and Aditya Chakrabortty are The Guardian's best by a country mile. But Harris has also known, long before other writers on the left, just how fucked Labour are.

[Bill Cosby]

The segment of that clip with the closed children's centre was pretty depressing.

There are lots of single parents out there who struggle to find work due to childcare costs. 

It would be brilliant if there was some kind of scheme in which centres like the one in the clip could be staffed mainly by volounteers who struggle to find work due to childcare costs, there own kids could be apart of the intake and for one or two days a week volounteering they get childcare the other three or four to allow them to work and earn.

Not sure how feasible that is in reality, it just feels as if these people that have kids without a support network in place struggle.

[Bill Cosby]

....on second thoughts perhaps some only make it rough on themselves.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3533883/mu...ette-butt/

[PHOODLE-OUt]

Big businesses should be offered incentives to have day crèches.

[Big Physical Acey]

The segment of that clip with the closed children's centre was pretty depressing.

There are lots of single parents out there who struggle to find work due to childcare costs. 

It would be brilliant if there was some kind of scheme in which centres like the one in the clip could be staffed mainly by volounteers who struggle to find work due to childcare costs, there own kids could be apart of the intake and for one or two days a week volounteering they get childcare the other three or four to allow them to work and earn.

Not sure how feasible that is in reality, it just feels as if these people that have kids without a support network in place struggle.

The Big Society

[Chrambo]

QT from Edinburgh tonight.

[Rogers Mako]

Lucky for him that we currently still have an NHS, for the moment.

[Shteve]

Just watched the video of him getting 'run over' bunch of fucking clowns the lot of them man

[PHOODLE-OUt]

A person called Lord Buckethead is standing against Theresa May in the election. Unclear if same Lord Buckethead who opposed Thatcher in 87.

[2MatoFish]

Hopefully it's the avant garde guitarist

[Mr A]

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/la...ng-ignore/

Dece wee blog here on the policies the Tories should think about liberating from Corbyn's leaked communist manifesto

[Mr A]