(11-02-2015, 10:28 PM)Mikey Wrote: Good.

Not sure why you'd want them to earn as little as possible? It doesn't affect you in any real sense.

(11-02-2015, 10:31 PM)Acey Wrote:

Not sure why you'd want them to earn as little as possible? It doesn't affect you in any real sense.

Simply put as it's not sustainable to keep lumping up the living wage at 5% a year as increasing number of employers are forced to pay it, especially as the majority of other people are getting very little if any rise.

Before long everything will be going up at 5% to cover these rises yet no one will get a payrise to afford this and jobs will be reduced - retailers already threatening this.

Furthermore the gap between the lowest paid and the skilled is closing and before long no one will bother being a nurse, tradesman etc. as they'll get paid marginally less to sit on a till without the hard work.

It only works if wages across the board rise and not just the lowest wages going up, pushing prices of everything up, whilst no one else gets a payrise.

The living wage probably only need increased again due to the cost inflation from the last increase

They're working what, 6 hours every game (if that). Hardly going to break the bank

£8.25 an hour to serve pies is a good deal.

Brb, people are becoming nurses and tradesmen for the money.

Tell us more about how the wage gap between the skilled and unskilled is shrinking so much in the UK that people will aspire to unskilled jobs, Prancer, despite every bit of empirical evidence out there showing that income inequality between the skilled and unskilled has risen significantly in recent years.

(11-02-2015, 10:54 PM)Francis Begbie Wrote: Tell us more about how the wage gap between the skilled and unskilled is shrinking so much in the UK that people will aspire to unskilled jobs, Prancer, despite every bit of empirical evidence out there showing that income inequality between the skilled and unskilled has risen significantly in recent years.

Minimum Wage 1999 £3.60
Minimum Wage 2015 £6.70

Average Salary 1999 £20,800
Average Salary 2015 £27,000

Pretty clear to me whose had the greatest increase over the past 16 years.

Figures came from a quick google search - I can't be arsed researching it much more.

No issue with taxing the mega rich more but they are too intelligent to pay tax and it's those in the middle who are standing still - unless that is dealt with the gap will close to a degree people will question why they should work hard to become an electrician rather than just a labourer, a nurse rather than a care worker and so on.

(11-02-2015, 11:00 PM)Prancer Wrote: Minimum Wage 1999 £3.60
Minimum Wage 2015 £6.70

Average Salary 1999 £20,800
Average Salary 2015 £27,000

Pretty clear to me whose had the greatest increase over the past 16 years.

Figures came from a quick google search - I can't be arsed researching it much more.

No issue with taxing the mega rich more but they are too intelligent to pay tax and it's those in the middle who are standing still - unless that is dealt with the gap will close to a degree people will question why they should work hard to become an electrician rather than just a labourer, a nurse rather than a care worker and so on.

I thought this has been touched on already? Why compare the maximum someone can earn in unskilled work to the average you can earn in skilled work? It's a disingenuous argument. One has the potential for progression, the other doesn't.

Those are minimum, there is nothing other than social stigma (and themselves) stopping someone who works in Tesco for minimum wage progressing career wise.

There are very few careers out there which need to have a highly qualified background to start.

"Quick Google search"

"Can't be arsed researching it more"

I'll just take your word for it then, given I have been arsed to research it more

Also, the minimum wage had only just been re-introduced in 1999 and was being factored in. It's just cherry picking.

(11-02-2015, 11:00 PM)Prancer Wrote: Figures came from a quick google search - I can't be arsed researching it much more.

Who could argue with that?

How bitter must you be to resent people earning a reasonable wage man

Great for the low earners temporarily but the people on slightly higher wages will suffer the most.

But I researched it quickly on Google guys

(11-02-2015, 05:39 PM)dok Wrote: http://imgur.com/a/S1X8i

Nah. That first photo seems to be the most recent and is airbrushed to fuck. Her weight is more obvious from the front as well, really shows off her iPhone-like figure.

Her Majesty out riding her favourite horse yesterday morning, aged 89. I hope I am still as active when I reach her age.

Didn't know horses lived that long

(11-03-2015, 01:33 PM)Picards Forehead Wrote: Didn't know horses lived that long

I've got two kids back home - 7 and 9.

Lord knows why i called them 7 and 9 but there you go.

Looks like she's having a right lark. Get the feeling she spends every waking minute wishing she was dead.