All parties are horrific. Will use my vote to vote against the Tories as per but tbh I feel like not voting for the first time. Seems like a complete waste of time as every party is the same. Apathetic. When I think about how the Tories and SNP have destroyed public services, squandered funds and shafted the poor over the their last terms, I get pretty angry but I know Labour will be no different. Just can't see the point anymore, all parties actions are far right regardless of what lies and empty promises they put in their Manifesto.
03-08-2015, 11:35 PM (Edited 03-08-2015, 11:37 PM by 2NaFez.)
(03-08-2015, 11:24 PM)Alan Partridge Wrote: What are the thoughts on Cameron's shitebagery surrounding the debates then?
I actually agree with Milliband that they should be compulsory now. Cameron is a greasy faced fucking weasel.
I'd rather not have them. They don't shape opinion and they promote a style of election that we don't have - the current dick measuring contest shows why it only works with a 2 or 3 party system. Even then, the american ones have been a stitch up job between the two parties since they effectively brought them in house in the 80s.
But if they're going to be done, then they need to be regulated independently and everyone needs to sign up. Cameron is a weasel but he's just trying to earn a chip he can barter with, he'll take part and is just flexing his muscles. I'm sure milliband or farage would threaten to drop out if they thought they could gain anything, but the reality is there wouldn't be this much of an uproar for them.
Anyway, can't help but feel this poster may not run all that well in parts of Scotland.
It's absolutely bare-faced what Cameron is doing. For him to stand up at PMQs and have the cheek to say "it's not me who's running scared, it's you", to a guy who has consistently said he would participate in any debate is unreal Doesn't really seem to be getting pulled up for it as much as he should either.
Wasn't that when he was itching for them against Brown - he knows fine well that the party with the most to lose is the Tories. UKIP will take fewer voters from the other main parties than they will from the Tories, his record in government is horrific and easily picked apart, and they're standing on a platform of more cuts etc which is difficult to sell in that kind of format.
He is also a wank, so comes across as a wank on the telly, which isn't great in these things. They didn't have any impact on voting behaviour last time out anyway though, so he needn't be so worried.
Read an interesting article in the guardian not that long ago that said the increase in tuition fees down south has actually been a positive thing for less well of students and any reversal of the increase would harm this.
(03-08-2015, 11:43 PM)Drederick Tatum Wrote: Folk still thinking the snp are centre left aye??
Read an interesting article in the guardian not that long ago that said the increase in tuition fees down south has actually been a positive thing for less well of students and any reversal of the increase would harm this.
the SNP are a centrist party but to the left of labour and tories.
The debates do seem to be trying to push us towards a presidential style vibe but I like them because I can bitch and sneer about politicians like the pathetic man I really am. I think they will be good for engaging younger voters a bit more as well.
It seems to be a bizarre move from Cameron though. As long as he sticks to mundane answers then it'll be someone like Farage or Bennett who comes out of them in the publics focus, like Clegg last time around. Even the king Tory knows he can't risk trying to defend the indefensible.
The SNP aren't an anything. They're a hodgepodge of different political beliefs, united by a single issue they all agree on, and it's only really in government that they've taken on this collectivist focus. They weren't nicknamed the Tartan Tories in the '80s and '90s for nothing. I see them as more a populist party than anything else. It would be interesting to see what would happen to them if independence ever came to pass.