(03-24-2017, 08:48 AM)Dexter Wrote: Was just reading about that reality TV "experiment" based up in the Highlands ("Eden" I think), and how, they've just released the 'stars' from a year in the wild, only to tell them that Channel 4 cancelled the show after only 4 episodes.

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Apparently they've not got a fucking clue about trump, brexit or any major news

Drove past what i can only assume was the white pride march on the royal mile today. Not sure if i saw the counter protest or what but there was a far bigger turnout than what i was expecting. Police absolutely everywhere as well.

USA has apparently killed 200 civilians in Iraq. No wonder a large portion of the Middle East fucking hate the west.

The govt are making a fresh bid to crack through social media to get access to our private conversations. The justification this time is that the westminster attacker sent a whatsapp messsage minutes before the attack took place. Amber Rudd currently on the tele complaining about encryption. Her internet banking will look remarkably different if she gets her way.

Which is to ignore the central point, which is that terrorists exist in all walks of life, not just online. It's a simple answer to a difficult question, in the same way as blaming video nasties or porn or rock'n'roll was.

They already have access to my texts and emails, not that fussed if they see all my dank memes on WhatsApp too tbh.

Not sure if this has been mentioned on here but has anyone read about the Scotsman hotel?

Apparently it's been bought over by a budget hotel brand, they've got rid of the gym and pool already apparently.

It was G1 that bought the hotel, but didn't want the gym and spa so they're still up for sale.

(03-26-2017, 11:44 AM)Chrambo Wrote: It was G1 that bought the hotel, but didn't want the gym and spa so they're still up for sale.

Is the spa the entrance down by city?

Was it not fairly popular nah? Seems weird to get rid of that if you're a hotel.

Ye, next door.  Not sure if it was popular, but don't think G1 have any experience of those types of venues.  Will have checked the books prior to takeover and not deemed it worthwhile.

(03-26-2017, 11:01 AM)Tzunafish Wrote: The govt are making a fresh bid to crack through social media to get access to our private conversations. The justification this time is that the westminster attacker sent a whatsapp messsage minutes before the attack took place. Amber Rudd currently on the tele complaining about encryption. Her internet banking will look remarkably different if she gets her way.

Which is to ignore the central point, which is that terrorists exist in all walks of life, not just online. It's a simple answer to a difficult question, in the same way as blaming video nasties or porn or rock'n'roll was.

Some good points made by Guido here - 

(03-27-2017, 09:35 AM)Indy-Stupid2 Wrote: Some good points made by Guido here - 

In the interview that caused me to post the above, Amber Rudd said that in order to combat terrorism she'd use experts who knew the "necessary hashtags".

As I say, going after whatsapp is just this decade's video nasties.

Presumably the goal is to intercept communications while the "plotting" is ongoing, without needing to physically possess their phone?

(03-27-2017, 09:41 AM)Acey Wrote: Presumably the goal is to intercept communications while the "plotting" is ongoing, without needing to physically possess their phone?

Aye. When will it end though, there are always ways round things. Give it 5 years before Rudd want's to implant tracking devices in everyone. 

Just laughed at remembering how they used Club Penguin to plan their attacks in Four Lions

The problem is that the public are far more tech-savvy than politicians. Things move on far too quickly for the latter to legislate effectively.

Is all this Whatsapp stuff confirmed?

I was under the impression that some hack from down there stumbled across an account with a similar name who was online around the same time - it's hardly irrefutable proof it was him on whatsapp.

Amber Rudd needs to have a word with herself.

(03-27-2017, 10:12 AM)Acey Wrote:

The problem is that the public are far more tech-savvy than politicians. Things move on far too quickly for the latter to legislate effectively.

The real issue - with encryption anyway - is that it's just maths. So long as there are prime numbers then we'll be encrypting information to send it online. There's no way of creating a backdoor without compromising everything. Moreoever, simply banning maths isn't going to stop terrorists from using it. They've shown remarkable sang froid when met with the troubling task of blowing themselves up, I doubt using the numbers 2, 3, 5,7, 11, 13 et al will cause them too many sleepless nights.

Whilst you're right that our democracy can only ever play catch up nowadays, this isn't something that's going to be legislated and is just an easy solution to give politicians something to say so that idiots think they're trying.

(03-27-2017, 10:28 AM)Tzunafish Wrote: The real issue - with encryption anyway - is that it's just maths. So long as there are prime numbers then we'll be encrypting information to send it online. There's no way of creating a backdoor without compromising everything. Moreoever, simply banning maths isn't going to stop terrorists from using it. They've shown remarkable sang froid when met with the troubling task of blowing themselves up, I doubt using the numbers 2, 3, 5,7, 11, 13 et al will cause them too many sleepless nights.

Whilst you're right that our democracy can only ever play catch up nowadays, this isn't something that's going to be legislated and is just an easy solution to give politicians something to say so that idiots think they're trying.

Notwithstanding what I said earlier about the public being relatively tech-savvy, what you've said means nothing to me, but it all sounds quite reassuring.

(03-27-2017, 11:18 AM)Alan Partridge Wrote:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/amb....edBQ0GG4m