(10-01-2017, 03:13 PM)shaun.lawson Wrote: It's a good point and argument, but I disagree. The reason they style themselves (often wildly hypocritically) in such a way is, of course, because many of their fans view them like a national team: which in turn, given all the history, is what makes the clasico so massive. Allowing the Spanish authorities to stiff them in some weird parallel to the Spanish police kicking shit out of Catalans? That's the last thing their public would want.

Creating a grievance is powerful towards eventually kicking out the english spanish

(10-01-2017, 03:04 PM)2NaFish Wrote: Also true.

But any fa is happy to present themselves as utter cunts. Because that's what they are. It's to be expected they'd put politics in front of safety in legitimate circumstances. Shit, but typical and expected.

Barca don't just present themselves as more than a club, they sell themselves on it. This is the opportunity to prove that and they've come up well short. They're sitting in the back of the bus. If they'd taken the loss it'd have highlighted the spanish fa's cruelty and also the cause of catalonia in general.

Exactly what SpFa want; like they give a fuck if it helps Madrid. Better to get three points in the hope it contributes to a title win for Catalonia.

Way they're playing they'll be lucky to get a win today.

(10-01-2017, 03:16 PM)2NaFish Wrote: Creating a grievance is powerful towards eventually kicking out the english spanish

Sure. But the Spanish police have done more than enough on that score already. Catalan independence will never, ever have been as popular around the world as it suddenly will be now.

Good positive move by Valverde; brings on threat with Iniesta & Rakitic. Busquets scores from a corner.

Las Palmas caught cold but they were well worth the scoreline at the half.

(10-01-2017, 03:18 PM)shaun.lawson Wrote: Sure. But the Spanish police have done more than enough on that score already. Catalan independence will never, ever have been as popular around the world as it suddenly will be now.

Chip paper. Spain's a country, catelonia isnt. We all move.

Barca dropping points is big though

(10-01-2017, 02:12 PM)Hurricane Drederick Wrote: You on it in a big way lewy aye?

Fuck aye.

Suarez needs booting; just been booked for a dive after a one-on-one with the keeper.  He's been pish nor nigh on a year now.

Empty stadium and we get a one-man pitch invasion (smothered by 10 orange-jacket men)after Messi tippy-toes around the keeper to make it two.

Coutinho

Finish

Outrageous

Gonna go ahead and say Klopp should probably get emptied

(10-01-2017, 04:10 PM)Johnny Wrote: Gonna go ahead and say Klopp should probably get emptied

Is it not the case that his record is worse than Bhrendan's?

Season after season they fail to sign a goalkeeper and a decent centre half.

No, the second best German manager in England should not be emptied, chaps.

That Newcastle squad has Championship written all over it, fair play to Rafa for keeping them competitive in the prem

What Barcelona's end game with the independence thing? They're staunchly for independence as a club - fair enough. No issues with that.

But if they're desperate for Catalan independence, you'd think they need to be 100% committed to it if it happens. So what league are they going to play in? A pishy wee Catalan league with Espanyol, Girona and a handful of other pro or semi-pro clubs? Are they fuck.


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It'd race on the start of a proper European League.

And be a test of the stance of the Spanish FA. Tempted by the money that having Barca in would bring to their league would they invite them in as an associate member club? I'd've been 50:50 on that before seeing how they handled the Catalan vote - still using the heavy heavy hand of authority rather than let people express their view.
(And what do they have to fear from that? The expression of, and so a rallying-to, an agitation for independence...i.e. exactly what forcibly denying that expression is bound to bring about, only more so. As any sociologist or political strategist could surely have told them).

Liverpool would probably be joint top with Van Dijk. Tight margins.

They should've spent big on a CB and a full back though.

(09-26-2017, 08:43 PM)Craig Levein-Style Icon Wrote: Is he not well over 100 now? GOAT regardless

GOAT?

(10-01-2017, 09:21 PM)Gregory Wrote: Liverpool would probably be joint top with Van Dijk. Tight margins.

They should've spent big on a CB and a full back though.