(02-20-2020, 05:58 PM)Fraggle Wrote: Lists of players he had compiled for January he was firmly told to fuck off. Weren't even breaking the bank either.

The 2 cronies forcing their favoured agents players on him.

The 'older pros' ripping the pish out of his poor english on the training ground.

I don't want to do the whole confirmation bias, but I had my suspicions about all three of these things.

I mind hearing that Stendel blew his top and Budge has to return from her holibobs because Macphee and Levein were fucking about chasing their own targets (Matty Kennedy) etc...

I don't trust any of the “senior players” - Souttar, Halkett and Naismith especially.

So far up Leveins rim it's unreal

Yeah Stendel was close to jacking it in altogether. Hence why Sievers and Tonge are here already. 

Tony Watt was another 

Far off the mark with Halkett btw.

Been said on here a few times that Levein finally got his man when we signed Boyce, but at least he is a signing we can all agree on.

Disgraceful if folk are being childish wee xenophobes about Stendel's english.

Find how quiet Budge has been since Stendel arrived quite telling. Levein signed who the fuck he wanted and wasted a fortune, and stendel not backed in the window despite the threat of relegation. Look how much Levein Cathro was backed by Budge.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/...735?page=4

(02-20-2020, 06:08 PM)Fraggle Wrote: Yeah Stendel was close to jacking it in altogether. Hence why Sievers and Tonge are here already. 

(02-20-2020, 06:08 PM)Fraggle Wrote: Far off the mark with Halkett btw.

(02-20-2020, 05:58 PM)Fraggle Wrote: Lists of players he had compiled for January he was firmly told to fuck off. Weren't even breaking the bank either.

The 2 cronies forcing their favoured agents players on him.

The 'older pros' ripping the pish out of his poor english on the training ground.

Not surprised in the slightest at any of those points. The 'experienced' players in our squad are a fucking disgrace and their lack of leadership is a significant reason we are staring relegation in the face.

Tomorrow when St Mirren outfight us they'll be more interested in mouthing off when the away support call out their non-effort too.

Winnie keeps saying old fucked knees is still in charge.

(02-20-2020, 05:58 PM)Fraggle Wrote: Lists of players he had compiled for January he was firmly told to fuck off. Weren't even breaking the bank either.

The 2 cronies forcing their favoured agents players on him.

The 'older pros' ripping the pish out of his poor english on the training ground.

Stendel really has had his hands tied. Levein and Budge are a pair of cunts.

Surely the 3rd point isn't true?

These are Sibbicks comments so unless he's lying, someone is either trying to stir shite or confusing changing room banter with something more sinister.

It was common knowledge that Levein and MacPhee were looking for players.

Who knows about the list thing or the reasons behind it (if true) although we do know he's got 3 of his own men in for sure. Boyce is obviously someone else's target.

Would explain the fucking about for the first 3 weeks of the window though

Why is AP so desperate for Stendel to fail

(02-20-2020, 06:01 PM)Grumblebum Wrote: I don't want to do the whole confirmation bias, but I had my suspicions about all three of these things.

I mind hearing that Stendel blew his top and Budge has to return from her holibobs because Macphee and Levein were fucking about chasing their own targets (Matty Kennedy) etc...

I don't trust any of the “senior players” - Souttar, Halkett and Naismith especially.

So far up Leveins rim it's unreal

Is Halkett a senior player? He's played 20 games in his puff that weren't for absolute diddy outfits.

When I hear senior players I think Naismith, Smith, Souttar, Boyce, Washington etc...

I'm not expressing a view on the whole dressing-room-unrest thing, but I do think it's adorable that AP still takes comments to the press at face value.

(02-20-2020, 06:48 PM)Our Daniel Tatum Wrote: Why is AP so desperate for Stendel to fail

Hes just huffy because he's back his holidays he'll cheer up soon

(02-20-2020, 06:52 PM)Adonis Aceyjaj Wrote: I'm not expressing a view on the whole dressing-room-unrest thing, but I do think it's adorable that AP still takes comments to the press at face value.

Na when that Sun story broke I thought there was probably something in it despite Naismith's dismissal of it.

I do find it very hard to believe that senior players are being xenophobic towards the manager and Budge hasn't acted.

(02-20-2020, 06:53 PM)Ross Kemp On Spice Wrote: I do find it very hard to believe that senior players are being xenophobic towards the manager and Budge hasn't acted.

Where is Budge? Anyone seen her lately? Has she disappeared post AGM? She fucked off abroad on a cheeky vacay at a time the club was in total crisis after allowing her BFF to run us into the ground over the last couple of years. Total silence from her.

Jack Ross was interviewed and getting the job until doctor Levein gave him the black spot.

No having Naismith and Souttar doing Basil Fawlty impressions at training

Absolute waffle.

(02-20-2020, 05:36 PM)Fraggle Wrote: This place(AP) has went fucking doolally the last couple of days. We all realise what state we are in and how much fight it's going to include staying up. Stendel genuinely has walked into the most toxic cliquey Hearts side I have ever seen. I know from horses mouths just the shit he is up against on a daily basis.

He has a few black marks against his name however such as not re-jigging the formation slightly and random cameos for the young pups(even though he has said he is picking the best performers in training) Poppadom-gate is another but his hands were tied with that to an extent.

Shilpa poppadom?

Glad to hear Halkett is not one of them

(02-20-2020, 06:52 PM)Adonis Aceyjaj Wrote: I'm not expressing a view on the whole dressing-room-unrest thing, but I do think it's adorable that AP still takes comments to the press at face value.

Only when it suits him, mind

It's like half of you have never seen a toxic club before, man, which is wild given our proximity to Hibernian football club As a sector leading educator and at least the 5th best teacher on here (behind the 3 actual teachers and Acey because he wrote a blog), even the best kids can run amok and be lazy wee shits if they're allowed to, and it's fucking hard to bring them back when they have a negative attitude instilled within them. Possible, but hard and it does take time. AP, if you need a wee bit of help with your toxic post quality, I think I can turn things around for you mate

Toxic clubs aren't that much different from a classroom gone to the dogs, I don't think - how many times have good players gone to a club with a bad culture around it and been a disgrace? Glenn Whelan didn't happen that long ago Takes time and a lot of energy to change things, and I'm backing Stendel to do it - I've seen enough signs that he has it in him and is doing the work. Doesn't absolve him of responsibility when things go wrong and it won't make him blameless if we go down - but it does give him a far harder job than some are giving credit for here. He could have been more pragmatic, but I'm not sure if that achieves the long term culture change we badly need