Say what you like about Glasgow but we have managed to have a bike scheme here for about a decade. For something as common in any mature european city to be dismantled and removed from Edinburgh says something about a deep seated problem in our society tbh.
09-01-2021, 09:20 AM (Edited 09-01-2021, 09:23 AM by Hung S.J..)
Poor planning, lack of appetite by those in power. That's the problem.
We will blame it all on wee jakies though.
DO you think there is less jakies in Glasgow, London, or less thieves in Madrid, Barcelona, Amsterdam etc..? Bike thieving is an industry here, organised criminals here pick as many bikes as they can overnight off the streets and throw them into the back of vans. Happens every night across the Netherlands and then they are sold in different cities to avoid detection.
Those in authority just don't gie a fuck about sustainable transport beyond platitudes and half-baked schemes
09-01-2021, 09:26 AM (Edited 09-01-2021, 09:26 AM by Morph.)
It is the wee jakies fault though
If it wasn't for them then we'd have a working scheme that didn't need any public funding that was self sustaining. That can't happen because it's too expensive with all the repairs/replacing bikes etc and now they're going to need to commit spending to it.
I cycle back on the canals from work and more than once I'd pass a group of kids just leathering fuck out the bikes and stands behind the school. It's happening to stations all over the city as well. The bikes will come back under another scheme though because they were well used, shame people can't just be trusted to have something decent without having to spend cash on keeping the stuff safe.
09-01-2021, 09:31 AM (Edited 09-01-2021, 09:33 AM by Hung S.J..)
(09-01-2021, 09:26 AM)Morph Wrote: It is the wee jakies fault though
If it wasn't for them then we'd have a working scheme that didn't need any public funding that was self sustaining. That can't happen because it's too expensive with all the repairs/replacing bikes etc and now they're going to need to commit spending to it.
I cycle back on the canals from work and more than once I'd pass a group of kids just leathering fuck out the bikes and stands behind the school. It's happening to stations all over the city as well. The bikes will come back under another scheme though because they were well used, shame people can't just be trusted to have something decent without having to spend cash on keeping the stuff safe.
Yes, but jakies are a constant in society, not a variable.
Jakies exist in NL. I hear cunts coming back from the nightclubs throwing bikes in the canals all the time. Like every night.
(09-01-2021, 09:20 AM)Hung S.J. Wrote: Poor planning, lack of appetite by those in power. That's the problem.
We will blame it all on wee jakies though.
DO you think there is less jakies in Glasgow, London, or less thieves in Madrid, Barcelona, Amsterdam etc..? Bike thieving is an industry here, organised criminals here pick as many bikes as they can overnight off the streets and throw them into the back of vans. Happens every night across the Netherlands and then they are sold in different cities to avoid detection.
Those in authority just don't gie a fuck about sustainable transport beyond platitudes and half-baked schemes
This happens all across europe. Some are even moved country to avoid detection, it's an international problem, and the stuff is gone before the police can bother to do anything about it.
But what's that got to do with the fact Edinburgh's just ripped up its very short lived bike scheme? The point I was making about a deep rooted problem in society is one I thought would have been obvious, even to you. But you want, for some reason, to distil it into people saying "it is just wee jakies". Maybe I should have written a thesis instead of saying there are problems in our society. Who needs brevity eh.
I don't really believe that line, tbh. As Scott says, there are wee idiots doing that kind of stuff everywhere. Easy way for the Council to kibosh it without admitting they've wasted a load of money for very little return.