08-04-2025, 08:02 AM
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Tony Bloom 10 million Investment and Access to Brighton's Recruitment Model.
Tony Bloom 10 million Investment and Access to Brighton's Recruitment Model.
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08-04-2025, 08:14 AM
08-04-2025, 02:37 PM
https://twitter.com/sked21/status/195236...KB4RVIQVLw
Right I know he’s a genius and all that but I think he’s getting slightly carried away here unless he knows something we don’t about these new guys  Love it though 
08-04-2025, 02:39 PM
Is he ok
08-04-2025, 02:40 PM
Probably watched Rangers on Saturday and thought they were a soft touch
 I'm here for it 
08-05-2025, 11:59 PM
i personally think his answer around whether he was in it for the money is (slightly) disingenuous.
we all talk about the JA model of identify under-the-radar players with high chance of success, fail quickly with duds by passing them on asap do all this whilst build squad value over time and hopefully win along the way... these are the means and not the ends. ...the ends here is to attain a shadow multi-club-ownership-like model that just keeps endless gettings returns a massive yield on £££ transfers between clubs (without all the other baggage and risk of owning the clubs). fifa/uefa have been trying to wrestle with multi-club ownership; simultaneously loving the moneybags they come with but having a hard time managing the optics of conflicting interests (e.g. palace/lyon fiasco). i think bloom primarily is working to get himself soft power across world football by having minority ownership of clubs (strategic influence) and having JA deeply embedded in their football operations. from there, jamestown operates as a major player in most/all major leagues long into the future, and they get their rewards primarily from player sales/bonuses. in short they operate by getting value between clubs, not owning them. all the revenue scale of multi-club ownership without the headaches. "but he said all revenues from player sales go to the club" - right, but by technical definition this is probably true. i'm guessing that JA will get some financial benefit from player sales through other contractual means (bonuses, service fees, royalties?). these types of outgoings won't be counted as player trading revenues. so count that as maybe another disingenuous statement. this all said, there's almost no downside for hearts here. i think as long as we don't become too dependent on jamestown for strategy over the long term and we are transparent about finances with jamestown re:transfers and their other services then this should all be fine.
08-06-2025, 12:38 AM
08-06-2025, 06:29 AM
(Edited 08-06-2025, 06:33 AM by Del-icious.)
Bloom doesn’t own Jamestown.
Think that’s a bit of a cynical look at his intentions imo. No doubt he’ll want to gain off his involvement in the club but I don’t think he’s trying to take over world fitba That reads as if you think there’s going to be a lot of trading between clubs and money staying within the JA network, that doesn’t seem to be the case with USG and Brighton so far? He explicitly said hearts won’t be a feeder team before joining.
08-06-2025, 06:36 AM
I think it might be as simple as he just loves a challenge and sees this as a very achievable one.
Brighton fans can’t speak highly enough of him which is unheard of for someone who’s been in charge for 15+ years. It’s hard to accept with our history but I think we’ve just won the lottery and there’s no ulterior motives in this one.
08-06-2025, 06:38 AM
(Edited 08-06-2025, 06:39 AM by Del-icious.)
I agree re the challenge. Ultimately he could’ve just bought rangers any time over the last few years pre the Americans getting involved and he’d have a ready made strong team to go and dominate Europe and Scotland with JA.
I think showcasing JA network of clubs is definitely part of his motives which is fine but I do think hearts are going to be heavily reliant on it going forward now. It’s the best in the world at what it does and just delivered the Belgian Patrick Thistle their premier league - it would be silly not to.
my post reads cynical which wasn’t intention. i still think it’s true about the story, challenge etc. and i don’t think he’s exploiting hearts by siphoning value. I do think there is still the intention to operate a legitimate and mutually beneficial mco-like outfit.
yes, bloom doesn’t own JA. but it’s defo run at arms length. take a look at their director changes in 2023. I think their expansion in partnerships coincides with these director changes by distancing themselves from starlizard as a gambling org. the previous directors are still execs at star lizard. the new owners are very closely associated to bloom. (08-06-2025, 06:29 AM)Del-icious Wrote: That reads as if you think there’s going to be a lot of trading between clubs and money staying within the JA network, that doesn’t seem to be the case with USG and Brighton so far? He explicitly said hearts won’t be a feeder team before joining. JA are confident that when they buy a player they will at best get a high yield and so confident that they (and their partnered club) will never make a devastating loss. so the teams sit on investments (players) and JA, because of (maybe) contract bonuses or royalties, are effectively sitting on player investment funds. so im not saying value between the JA network of clubs. but rather the network of JA acquired players on the books at all partnered teams. if these fees/royalties are in contracts with partner clubs when clubs sell then JA has effectively a large network forever building very valuable equity. and that equity is finally realised when a non-JA team buy a player from a JA team and then the player investment fund has a big return.
08-06-2025, 07:32 AM
If Jamestown is good, and delivers good players we get to watch, goals, big games and some trophies, no the league (i still believe thats impossible) but a cup, then it'll be worth it.
We feed of the scraps of the Old Firms table. All for trying something new If the players are good, and are selt on, so be it, they'll only get sold on if they are good, and if they are good, we might see some goals, some big games, and some silverware. If Bloom makes a some £££ along the way, great. No like we were ever good at player trading at any point in our history. Every club bar about 5 in world soccer are selling clubs
08-06-2025, 08:03 AM
also to be clear, im a super optimist here. i think we will not only split the old firm and we will win a league title between within next 5 years…i think we will be a power house after that first league win, consistently achieving similar point tallies to the ugly twins for some time.
all I’m saying is that, JA will not just be getting fixed “service consultancy” fees from us. i reckon there’s a bigger vision and a longer game for both JA and bloom. we should, as club supports and club owners, still be interested in what bloom and JA does outside of hearts. and statements like “all player transfers revenues stay with the club” and “this is all about hearts” just should be taken with a pinch of salt. we still get to enjoy the ride in good faith. 
08-06-2025, 08:35 AM
(Edited 08-06-2025, 08:37 AM by CritchSmile.)
These are good posts btw, I welcome a bit of critical thinking.
You have to remember, there were people on this forum who believed that Critchley scored top in world of football through Jamestown Analytics to become Hearts manager, coincidentally a day after he sent his CV in begging for the job. All because Budge and Mckinlay told them so. These are the same type of people that are propogandised into allowing holocausts and genocides to be enacted and will believe whatever Tam Skinner writes through his AI generator. We will certainly need to keep an eye on the things you say if all Bloom's clubs get into Europe. I've always viewed this project as a profit making venture for Bloom. I don't expect Braga etc.. to be here long. They get bought for buttons and sold as soon as a buyer meets the new market value.
"You’ll do plums"
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