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11-22-2016, 12:25 PM
(11-22-2016, 10:53 AM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: A lot of people apparently. I'm not one of them. From the opinion pieces I've read, it's mostly other women. I worked in a kids cafe for a year and you'd see it all the time. Generally mums have got those wee blankets that they use for decency and you wouldn't even notice. Mums who just whip their tit out in the middle of Asda because "they can" and "it's natural" are just being provocative (imo).

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11-22-2016, 12:27 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:19 PM)Acey Wrote: What if you don't have a blanket with you? I've never looked closely enough to check tbh, but I'm fairly sure you can be discrete about it without covering your baby's head.

Well yeah, top up, vest down and the baby's head covers? Fairly simple.

"Extended breastfeeding" probably isn't as it seems for most people anyway. You've got people like her that seem to want to force it. My first was about 22 months when she stopped and second is 19 months and still feeds.

I can take her away for a couple of days at a time though so it's not something being forced on her. It's maybe once a day at that point? Think scientifically most kids naturally wean completely between 2-3.
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11-22-2016, 12:28 PM (Edited 11-22-2016, 12:29 PM by 2MatoFish.)
(11-22-2016, 12:24 PM)TheMaganator2.0 Wrote: Are you not meant to stop breastfeeding once the child can walk - c8months-1year? That was my sisters take on it anyway with her son.

It's not that you're meant to stop, more that it's about the time when kids are getting in to their food and it's about the right time for their development. Or, atleast it'll start to get phased out. It's just that people think breastfeeding kids when they're older is creepy. It is. I've never watched that prequel to Psycho they made, but i'd imagine norman bates was breastfeed to a decent age.
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11-22-2016, 12:30 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:09 PM)2NaFish Wrote: I've got no problem with it, but it's like taking a shit in public.

It's an utterly banal act to anyone not involved, ie mum and baby. Anyone not involved who gives it a second thought has issues.

Can't disagree with that. It's unfortunate that there are people out there who not only take umbrage with it, but also feel they have the right to stop it from happening.

(11-22-2016, 12:16 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote: My post was badly worded. She is definitely making a statement; a ridiculous one as well. I suppose with all these oddballs there is an underlying need to make some sort of a point which is coupled with them not being able to let go of the baby growing up.


Quite a few different issues going on though; breastfeeding a 4 yr old is not the same as breastfeeding, but you're kind of conflating them in your response?

There is a few issues yeah.

Breastfeeding a toddler is weird.
Breastfeeding a toddler publicly and online is even weirder.
Campaigning to normalise breastfeeding toddlers is proper oddball behaviour. Not like the kid is campaigning for their right to tit milk, so it's 100% down to the mother wanting to do it. Gets creepy in that regard.

That's my opinion on the article you posted.

In regards to the general breastfeeding of children, I've got no issue with it at all. If a mum wants to walk down the street with a kid on each tit then all the power to her. I couldn't care less. Pretending not to understand how someone else might care though is disingenuous, of course you can understand. You might not agree with it, but it's not hard to see their side. (the general you, not you Walt).

It's a tricky one. I've just read an article that, like AP, obtusely compares "if you don't want leered at for breastfeeding then use a blanket" to "if you don't want raped don't show flesh". I think that's in incredibly bad taste and makes the topic much more emotive than it should. If you can feed your child in public without offending anyone by simply covering your breast with a blanket, why wouldn't you? What benefit is there to doing it openly other than "because I can"?
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11-22-2016, 12:31 PM
That wee boy in Riverfell on Game of Thrones is still getting breast fed and he is a total physco.
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11-22-2016, 12:33 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:30 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: If you can feed your child in public without offending anyone by simply covering your breast with a blanket, why wouldn't you?

Why the fuck should they? Warnock

Should people be forced to take blankets to cover up all kinds of behaviour people might find a little Tony You What
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11-22-2016, 12:36 PM
I've seen women doing it without a blanket and it's still discreet.

I'd find a woman breastfeeding their 5 year old odd though, not because she's got her pap out but because he's at school and still getting breast fed.

See when kids that age are still getting breastfed, do they eat anything else? Laugh
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11-22-2016, 12:38 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:36 PM)Morph Wrote: I've seen women doing it without a blanket and it's still discreet.

I'd find a woman breastfeeding their 5 year old odd though, not because she's got her pap out but because he's at school and still getting breast fed.

See when kids that age are still getting breastfed, do they eat anything else? Laugh

That's kinda what I was getting at. At that age (atleast from my experience) breastfeeding is only a tiny part of their diet.

It's recommended to 2 by the WHO but that's not exclusive. That's alongside solid food.
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11-22-2016, 12:38 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:19 PM)Acey Wrote: What if you don't have a blanket with you? I've never looked closely enough to check tbh, but I'm fairly sure you can be discrete about it without covering your baby's head. The connotations that come with "whip my bare breast out" (of mothers going "WAHEEEEEY" as they rip their top open in the frozen aisle Warnock ) probably don't reflect reality. Like I said, I can't speak for breastfeeding mothers, but I really doubt that the vast majority of them want attention while doing it, let alone want to be provocative (of what?).


It's also a bit disingenuous to suggest that anyone here has claimed that they have no idea how anyone could be offended. Tony Can't Hear You A few of us have said that they're idiots/weirdos for being offended, and that your comparison with taking a shite in the middle of Asda is stupid. Warnock

Sterling as mentioned ways to feed your kid without flashing your paps to others having their tea.

It seems that you're jumping on my use of provocative to mean instilling a sexual desire. Can you stop that please? I'm clearly using it to mean provoking a reaction of annoyance or anger.


(11-22-2016, 12:22 PM)Acey Wrote: No, I don't think I'm obliged to show respect for views that I find idiotic.

Ok, Acey.
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11-22-2016, 12:39 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:30 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: Can't disagree with that. It's unfortunate that there are people out there who not only take umbrage with it, but also feel they have the right to stop it from happening.


There is a few issues yeah.

Breastfeeding a toddler is weird.
Breastfeeding a toddler publicly and online is even weirder.
Campaigning to normalise breastfeeding toddlers is proper oddball behaviour. Not like the kid is campaigning for their right to tit milk, so it's 100% down to the mother wanting to do it. Gets creepy in that regard.

That's my opinion on the article you posted.

Agree with that. Re someone who has maybe appeared in the backroom, my guess is that she's a possible contender for that kind of behaviour.
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11-22-2016, 12:41 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:31 PM)TheMaganator2.0 Wrote: That wee boy in Riverfell on Game of Thrones is still getting breast fed and he is a total physco.

Kate Dickie comes in to my work quite often and I chat with her when I get the chance. It's hard to get the above image and some of the stuff she gets up to in Red Road out my mind when you're having a lovely chat about Ben Wheatley movies or city centre parking.
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11-22-2016, 12:41 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:33 PM)Sterling Archer Wrote: Why the fuck should they? Warnock

Should people be forced to take blankets to cover up all kinds of behaviour people might find a little Tony You What

And that's the attitude I expect women who openly breastfeed in public have. That's provocation. Basically a big "fuck you" to the prudes.
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11-22-2016, 12:43 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:41 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: And that's the attitude I expect women who openly breastfeed in public have. That's provocation. Basically a big "fuck you" to the prudes.

what is 'open breastfeeding'?
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11-22-2016, 12:44 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:41 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: And that's the attitude I expect women who openly breastfeed in public have. That's provocation. Basically a big "fuck you" to the prudes.

I think you'll always get arseholes who take things too far but why should all breastfeeding women have to do that because of some dafties.

In a restaurant on any day you'll see far more disturbing behaviour than that. Maybe we should get blankets for everyone?
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11-22-2016, 12:47 PM
Fuck me - I thought I'd logged on to my mumsnet account.

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11-22-2016, 12:49 PM
Funny you should mention mumsnet because i actually went on it earlier on the back of an article i read Laugh
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11-22-2016, 12:49 PM
If you're older than 10 and find breastfeeding funny/weird then you're a bit odd tbh.
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11-22-2016, 12:50 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:49 PM)Amnesiac Wrote: Funny you should mention mumsnet because i actually went on it earlier on the back of an article i read Laugh

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11-22-2016, 12:53 PM
Why should you have to cover a babies head with a blanket to feed them? Unless you're proper staring through the whole thing you'll never see anything while a woman is breastfeeding.
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11-22-2016, 12:54 PM
(11-22-2016, 12:43 PM)2NaFish Wrote: what is 'open breastfeeding'?

These 2 women are feeding their children. I'll let you decide what open means.

[Image: Mother-breast-feeding-baby.jpg][Image: breastfeeding-mama.jpg]

(11-22-2016, 12:44 PM)Sterling Archer Wrote: I think you'll always get arseholes who take things too far but why should all breastfeeding women have to do that because of some dafties.

In a restaurant on any day you'll see far more disturbing behaviour than that. Maybe we should get blankets for everyone?

Breastfeeding mums shouldn't have to do anything. They're entitled to do what they want. Unfortunately there's a contingent in our society that don't want bare breast in their view when they eat their tea. If there's 2 ways to breastfeed, one which upsets others one that doesn't*, and you choose the one that upsets others, can you be surprised when others get upset? I agree that these people shouldn't be bothered by it, but that doesn't change the fact that they are.

It's nothing to do with sexualisation before anyone starts. From the anecdotes I've read today and in the past, it's mostly women shaming other women.

*I'm aware that Khali has mentioned a time when his bird got hassle and she was being discreet
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