Talk Hearts Daily News Thread

[Shteve]

Having rules in a war

Ken, let's just blind aw they cunts with laser beams, job done.

[Charlie Kelly]

Don't necessarily have an issue with his sentence being reduced and his charge being changed, it's the jubilation being shown that has me uneasy. The media are treating him as a hero and as if he's been exonerated, I realise all the stories say differently but the way it's being reported is all a bit crass for me. 

He's a war criminal at the end of the day and should be treated like one.

[pondlife]

Isn't it better to be murdered shot on the battlefield than taken prisoner by the infidel.

[Big Physical Acey]

Don't necessarily have an issue with his sentence being reduced and his charge being changed, it's the jubilation being shown that has me uneasy. The media are treating him as a hero and as if he's been exonerated, I realise all the stories say differently but the way it's being reported is all a bit crass for me. 

He's a war criminal at the end of the day and should be treated like one.

He shouldn't be lauded (and the "ISIS WOULD'VE DONE THE SAME" argument is one of the worst ever), but the "left to rot" stuff is silly and hysterical too.

[2MatoFish]

Don't necessarily have an issue with his sentence being reduced and his charge being changed, it's the jubilation being shown that has me uneasy. The media are treating him as a hero and as if he's been exonerated, I realise all the stories say differently but the way it's being reported is all a bit crass for me. 

He's a war criminal at the end of the day and should be treated like one.

I agree with this. I fully appreciate that conditions would be horrific and don't want to castigate the soldier unduly but it was cold blooded murder and he deserves a punishment that takes all of that in to account.

The idea that oor laddies can do no wrong in defence of Queen and Country is troubling and widespread.

[Kashinda]

Do the folk we're fighting follow the Geneva convention?

[Del-icious]

Do the folk we're fighting follow the Geneva convention?

We should be, and when we don't soldiers should be held accountable accordingly.

You think it's just like a free for all on Rust or something?

[Shteve]

We should be, and when we don't soldiers should be held accountable accordingly.

You think it's just like a free for all on Rust or something?

[Mikey]

We should be, and when we don't soldiers should be held accountable accordingly.

You think it's just like a free for all on Rust or something?

Full pardon if Marine A killed him via a 720 quickscope

[Kashinda]

If we should be then so should they, but they don't, so neither should we. 
Can't be playing the same game with two sets of rules now can you?

[Del-icious]

Maybe we should start strapping bairns with C4 vests and sending them into their hospitals

[Big Physical Acey]

You think it's just like a free for all on Rust or something?

   

Have a word Kash.  

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

He's just saying the generic 'right' thing to say, we all know what's right but it would be pretty flat if nobody took an opposing view.

This is about the most simple minded thing I've ever read.

Having rules in a war

No wait, this is.

The guy is guilty of manslaughter due to diminished responsibility. 8 years (or whatever it was he got) doesn't seem unduly harsh or lenient. Saying that he should be "left to rot" betrays an ignorance of what "diminished responsibilty" means.

Left to rot is ridiculous hyperbole, not going to argue against that, and I know perfectly well what diminished responsibility means - the general point he was making though, that a lot of the reaction to this reduction in sentence is distasteful and hypocritical, is one I totally agree with.

Baby steps with the lad Prancer; you can't be expecting Michael Walzer level stuff from him

Don't necessarily have an issue with his sentence being reduced and his charge being changed, it's the jubilation being shown that has me uneasy. The media are treating him as a hero and as if he's been exonerated, I realise all the stories say differently but the way it's being reported is all a bit crass for me. 

He's a war criminal at the end of the day and should be treated like one.

Exactly right. Without having seen the evidence, I can't really make a comment on the quashing of the murder sentence, but the quotes from the lawyers etc suggest that his previous conduct and an adjustment disorder were the key factors in having the charge dropped to manslaughter.

"The judges said: “There can be little doubt that on 15 September 2011 the appellant was angry and vengeful and had a considerable degree of hatred for the wounded insurgent. On prior deployments, similar emotions had been controlled by him.

“The appellant's decision to kill was probably impulsive and the adjustment disorder had led to an abnormality of mental functioning that substantially impaired his ability to exercise self-control.”"

Leaving aside all of my unfounded scepticism over the reasoning (something about that statement really doesn't sit right with me, regardless of the adjustment disorder and 'exceptional stressors') and whether a consistent approach would be employed had a British soldier been the victim, that's still an horrendous crime, and there was a crowd outside the court giving him three cheers, with banners and glorifying him with his face on posters. Distasteful isn't a strong enough word. I understand the reduction of the conviction, and I may even agree with it if I were to see the case, but celebrating it isn't pretty.

[Zizou]

Andy Coulson is now the PR advisor for the Telegraph

[Bill Cosby]

What a torn faced auld cunt

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/ou...-1-4406360

[PHOODLE-OUt]

So he does

[CritchSmile]

You don't discover 'the god' particle and also be an easy going, life and soul of the party type chap, tbf.

Standard recluse.

[PHOODLE-OUt]

https://stv.tv/news/east-central/1384334...ign=buffer

Scott Hasting's wife has gone missing

[Shteve]

I imagine he'll be getting led into custody shortly.

[2MatoFish]

What do the man who discovered the basis for existence and future big brother evictee 'her that won money' have in common?

Ken Barlow Fame ruined both their lives.