Talk Hearts Daily News Thread

**Edson Arantes 2Nascimento** · 11-25-2017, 01:43 PM

(11-25-2017, 01:37 PM)Its shit Wrote: I'm 46. I'm guessing you are in your 20s. And it very much is true.

You were about seven when the sex pistols called Grundy a dirty bastard on TV then.

Young people have always disrespected older people.

It's utter shit · 11-25-2017, 01:58 PM

(11-25-2017, 01:43 PM)2NaFish Wrote: You were about seven when the sex pistols called Grundy a dirty bastard on TV then.

Young people have always disrespected older people.

Is that your argument? Some posh boy punks calling a tv presenter a name 40 years ago?

Warnock

**Edson Arantes 2Nascimento** · 11-25-2017, 02:00 PM

You said young people respected their elders. I gave an example of that nor happening.

If you think that's not me proving you wrong then there's not much I can do for you.

It's utter shit · 11-25-2017, 02:06 PM

(11-25-2017, 02:00 PM)2NaFish Wrote: You said young people respected their elders. I gave an example of that nor happening.

If you think that's not me proving you wrong then there's not much I can do for you.

And there's not much I can do for you if you class that as a serious point.

**King WillDred of Orange** · 11-25-2017, 02:32 PM

I'm 100% sure a section of society have never respected their elders.

**Edson Arantes 2Nascimento** · 11-25-2017, 02:51 PM

Nah mate. It's only just started.

**Widespread Gang Violence** · 11-25-2017, 03:18 PM

(11-25-2017, 11:39 AM)Chrambo Wrote: Shaun Woodburns killer has started an appeal against his conviction

4 years for killing a young guy with a family.

Without knowing the specifics, it's quite common to lodge a Notice of Intention to Appeal after conviction, because it gives you (iirc) another eight weeks to draft the actual grounds of appeal. May just be leaving their options open.

He'd be daft to appeal the sentence, but you can appeal the conviction without appealing the sentence.

11-25-2017, 04:29 PM

Can they increase the sentence as well as reduce it in that appeal?

PHOODLE-OUt · 11-26-2017, 09:11 AM

Seem to be redrawing the catchment lines in Edinburgh. Also merging Currie High with the WHEC

**Widespread Gang Violence** · 11-26-2017, 02:58 PM

(11-25-2017, 04:29 PM)Fire Doinks Wrote: Can they increase the sentence as well as reduce it in that appeal?

In a sentence appeal, yes - it's all up for grabs, so to speak.

I can't remember if they can touch the sentence if it's a conviction appeal only. Monty Umm

Gut feeling is no.

11-26-2017, 03:20 PM

Ah right, misread your post. Can they change the conviction rather than just overturn it? Convicting him of a higher crime at the appeal stage and then forcing new sentencing based on the minimum requirements of that? Like upgrading what he's been convicted of is what I'm asking.

**Widespread Gang Violence** · 11-26-2017, 03:35 PM

If you mean "we're not only refusing your appeal against your culpable homicide conviction, we're quashing it and convicting you of murder instead. Here's a life sentence too", then no, they can't do that.