Talk Hearts Daily News Thread

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

They shouldn't have been doing that

[Charlie Kelly]

 I've been out the loop on this but what's the reason behind them not just giving folk their prelim grade?

[Felix]

Daughter got a C in her Adv Higher Chem prelim, and the SQA marked her down to a D.  Looks like it's a lot to do with the high school having a shitty position in the league tables.

[CritchSmile]

Get it all appealed

[Felix]

Yep - thankfully she's got an unconditional to Strathclyde so it's not as bad as it could've been had she been needing a pass.

[Del-icious]

What are England doing?

Quite something that the gvt have allowed this to happen, pretty disgraceful way of grading exams. Guessing it's too late to reverse now as well.

[Felix]

Standard line from the gov seems to be, if you don't like it, appeal.

Opens the door to 100,000 appeals incoming to put further strain on an already failed system. How a beige suit in an office earning £8.00 per hour can know what my children would have scored in an exam over what their teacher has TOLD them their pupils would get - is totally beyond me.

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

 I've been out the loop on this but what's the reason behind them not just giving folk their prelim grade?

They've used historical attainment data for the schools. What that means in practice is that kids in wealthy schools have seen their predicted grades drop by an average of under 7%, whereas poor kids have gone down by over 15%

I don't doubt for a second that predictions were inflated, but that was inevitable when there was no exam for the pupils to actually prove themselves - plus, who presents kids for an exam they think they'll fail in the kinds of numbers that actually fail (a quarter of kids in Modern Studies at N5 fail nationally; most of those will be expected to pass).

[Kashinda]

Standard line from the gov seems to be, if you don't like it, appeal.

Opens the door to 100,000 appeals incoming to put further strain on an already failed system.  How a beige suit in an office earning £8.00 per hour can know what my children would have scored in an exam over what their teacher has TOLD them their pupils would get - is totally beyond me.

So your kids teacher has told them that they'd be graded based on their prelim result and they haven't been? Surely that's grounds for an appeal.

[CritchSmile]

https://twitter.com/gordonmaloney/status...25312?s=21

SNP are utterly shite at education

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

https://twitter.com/gordonmaloney/status...25312?s=21

SNP are utterly shite at education

Deleted. What did it say?

Just saw the whole school results for us. One subject has had every single pupil moved down at Higher and all but one moved down at National 5

[CritchSmile]

Still there for me

”am i misunderstanding or has the scottish government let 93% of pupils' grades be downgraded based on their schools' previous performance?“

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

Cheers. Think he's got that a bit confused

Just spoke to my mate (*doubt.gif*) who works in a more deprived school than me. His shree year average of As at Higher Mods is 48%. The SQA have moderated their predictions down to 16% As

[CritchSmile]

https://twitter.com/klo_12/status/129063...21472?s=21

[Big Physical Acey]

Hope Begbie's on performance-related pay

[Mikey]

This is horrible.

Here's a story about how hard my life has been.

[Charlie Kelly]

Hope Begbie's on performance-related pay

 

Seriously though that's a disgrace, how many folk are going to need to stay on at school now because they've been given the shaft on this? 

The amount of appeals that they're going to have to deal with as well because of this is going to cost them a fortune.

[CritchSmile]

This is horrible.

Here's a story about how hard my life has been.

meant to just post barry's twitter, not the 'woe is me' bit.

[Big Physical Acey]

Government doing its bit to ensure that we have the next generation of guid hoanest British fruit pickers.

[Cheeky Gnando’s]

Hope Begbie's on performance-related pay

So do I

Another very profitable year at the exam factory

I actually only had two pupils get their grades adjusted, both from a C to a D. A number of kids losing their band 1 A and moving to a band 2, but that's not a big deal. It's clear that I'm benefiting here from being primarily a) in a school in a less deprived area, and to a lesser extent b) having consistently very strong results, which is utter bullshit for every kid in a deprived catchment who has had their grade manipulated based on the attainment of other kids from the past.

Bear in mind that they never asked for any evidence for the predictions, so they have *literally* changed the grades teachers arrived at using (if other schools were anything like my experience) a huge range of data and hours upon hours of analysis and moderation, based on nothing more than plugging the data into a spreadsheet and plotting it on a bell curve. Kids not going to uni because last year their school had a supply teacher taking the Higher Maths class, or because some other kids in 2017 failed