'Scottish National Team' thread

**Mastermind** · 10-01-2019, 12:56 PM

Dundee United beat our signing on fee for him, a disgrace in all honesty. Monty LewLew

Billy Butcher · 10-01-2019, 01:37 PM

(10-01-2019, 12:39 PM)Hendricks Wrote: 2017-18 at Ayr he scored 29 in 33 appearances.

2018-19 at Ayr he scored 34 in 41 appearances.

2019-20 at D.Utd he's scored 15 in 12 appearances.

That's 78 goals in 86 appearances!! And yet Hearts, whose entire squad managed a combined 81 goals in the last 2 league campaigns (76 games) didn't think he was worthy of giving the opportunity.

Aye but he isn't exactly Craig Wighton or Gavin Reilly, is he!? Levein

**Del-icious** · 10-01-2019, 01:40 PM

(10-01-2019, 12:39 PM)Hendricks Wrote: 2017-18 at Ayr he scored 29 in 33 appearances.

2018-19 at Ayr he scored 34 in 41 appearances.

2019-20 at D.Utd he's scored 15 in 12 appearances.

That's 78 goals in 86 appearances!! And yet Hearts, whose entire squad managed a combined 81 goals in the last 2 league campaigns (76 games) didn't think he was worthy of giving the opportunity.

Honest to fucking god can we stop this Warnock

Hearts were interested but dundee utd threw money at him to get him.

**Charlie Kelly** · 10-01-2019, 01:43 PM

Moving on from Shankland, why is Billy Gilmour not in the squad? And why is Hickey only in the 19s?

Hendricks · (Edited 10-01-2019, 02:10 PM by Hendricks.)

(10-01-2019, 01:40 PM)Arthur Morphan Wrote: Honest to fucking god can we stop this

Hearts were interested but dundee utd threw money at him to get him.

My bad. I forgot about the 6 milly overspend on the new stand and the dozens of shite signings we've wasted money on. Totally understandable we wouldn't have a hundred grand (much more worthwhile causes like the girls team requiring that sort of figure Monty Chuckle

) for a cheap goalscorer!

**Del-icious** · 10-01-2019, 02:11 PM

Dundee Utd didn't get him cheap though so why would we?

I don't think we're as big a draw to him as you think we are.

**Nive la France** · 10-01-2019, 06:54 PM

(10-01-2019, 02:11 PM)Arthur Morphan Wrote: Dundee Utd didn't get him cheap though so why would we?

I don't think we're as big a draw to him as you think we are.

I think his point is that we should be able to outbid United for anyone, and he isn't wrong. It sticks in the craw that we've signed every project player Levein has fancied in the last three years, but we won't spend enough to bring Shankland in.

PHOODLE-OUt · 10-01-2019, 06:59 PM

As if Budge would pony up 200k blabs Heh

**Nive la France** · 10-01-2019, 07:09 PM

Would guess we've spent that on four or five players during her reign. Probably a team's worth if you count paid up contracts Laugh

PHOODLE-OUt · 10-01-2019, 07:11 PM

I imagine a lot of signings have been paid in instalments. Maybe not. Maybe if we never fucked up the stand there would have been a bigger war chest Monty Oh Well

**Hank Scorpio** · 10-01-2019, 07:14 PM

Pretty much everyone outside the Old Firm missed a trick. Rumours that he's on 8k a week, which would probably only leave us, Aberdeen and Hibs.

Washington, Doidge and Main haven't exactly been great alternatives.

Ray Winstone · 10-01-2019, 07:15 PM

Budge's brother in law (or whoever the fuck he was) cost us more than Shankland would have Warnock

PHOODLE-OUt · 10-01-2019, 07:17 PM

Probably spends that on wining and shmoozing her Tory mates ever Saturday

**CritchSmile** · 10-01-2019, 07:23 PM

(10-01-2019, 02:11 PM)Arthur Morphan Wrote: Dundee Utd didn't get him cheap though so why would we?

I don't think we're as big a draw to him as you think we are.

Why do you think we need to get him cheap? We should've invested in him as a prized asset.

Half Time Guest · 10-01-2019, 07:53 PM

We probably spent a combined 400-500 grand in transfer fees alone on the Fantastic Four of Sean Clare, Gavin Reilly, Craig Wighton and Kenny Anderson just off the top of my head. Our spending of any sort of cash is diabolical.

Its peak Budge era Hearts to spunk that kind of cash on donkeys like them but not break the bank for any proven players.

Hendricks · 10-01-2019, 07:55 PM

(10-01-2019, 07:14 PM)Hick Scorpio Wrote: Pretty much everyone outside the Old Firm missed a trick. Rumours that he's on 8k a week, which would probably only leave us, Aberdeen and Hibs.

Washington, Doidge and Main haven't exactly been great alternatives.

Not suggesting you made up this "rumour" but who the hell is coughing up a 400k a year salary with alleged 200k signing on fees at Dundee Utd to sign players?! That sounds absolutely fanciful at best, complete bullshit is more likely. The fact is that Hearts should have been one of the leading options for Shankland given our total lack of a natural goalscorer for years and given the market(s) we work in. That we have signed dross from elsewhere and players that have completely failed from a similar level, though without anything like the goalscoring record would appear to me to have far more to do with the decision than finances. We've wasted a lot of money on numerous players we've had to pay without any contribution for seasons on end or pay off etc - not to sign Shankland looks as bad a mistake as some of those we've brought in!

Hendricks · 10-01-2019, 07:59 PM

(10-01-2019, 07:53 PM)Half Time Guest Wrote: We probably spent a combined 400-500 grand in transfer fees alone on the Fantastic Four of Sean Clare, Gavin Reilly, Craig Wighton and Kenny Anderson just off the top of my head. Our spending of any sort of cash is diabolical.

Its peak Budge era Hearts to spunk that kind of cash on donkeys like them but not break the bank for any proven players.

Imagine the combined wages of the likes of Martin, Oshinawa, Sammon, the Cathro January invasion etc. Easily into 7 figures.

**Jeff Resnick** · 10-01-2019, 08:05 PM

(10-01-2019, 07:55 PM)Hendricks Wrote: Not suggesting you made up this "rumour" but who the hell is coughing up a 400k a year salary with alleged 200k signing on fees at Dundee Utd to sign players?! That sounds absolutely fanciful at best, complete bullshit is more likely. The fact is that Hearts should have been one of the leading options for Shankland given our total lack of a natural goalscorer for years and given the market(s) we work in. That we have signed dross from elsewhere and players that have completely failed from a similar level, though without anything like the goalscoring record would appear to me to have far more to do with the decision than finances. We've wasted a lot of money on numerous players we've had to pay without any contribution for seasons on end or pay off etc - not to sign Shankland looks as bad a mistake as some of those we've brought in!

They've just been taken over by a wealthy American. Comes in and chucks some money at it and gets Shankland. It isnt that fanciful a suggestion.

I've mentioned here before that we went in for him at the beginning of last season and decided he wasnt worth what he was asking for and the same this time around (same for Hibs). Considering Levein's lengthy track record on signing shite, I cant fathom why folk would be surprised? Jezza

Walter Sobchak · 10-02-2019, 02:14 PM

(10-01-2019, 06:54 PM)Neaven MacLean Wrote: I think his point is that we should be able to outbid United for anyone, and he isn't wrong. It sticks in the craw that we've signed every project player Levein has fancied in the last three years, but we won't spend enough to bring Shankland in.

Think it was more that he wanted more than we valued him at?

Walter Sobchak · 10-02-2019, 02:18 PM

£8k a week. Warnock

Imagine we had signed him on £8k a week like Scott appears to be suggesting, and he couldn't make the step up to higher level, or got injured and was a huddy.

Would be seething beyond belief. This place would spontaneously combust.