'Wings Over TalkHearts' Politics Thread

[Del-icious]

Ok?

[2MatoFish]

They're even insipid at coups. Say what you like about the tories, they'd have been through a half dozen prime ministers by now.

And every single reform mp would knife farage in the back given indication they could take power.

[Del-icious]

Think that’s the point that Starmer is making though, tories rattled through PMs and where did it get them?

Like fitba managers I don’t think it’s practical to constantly throw the dice on a new leader as soon as things aren’t looking positive and the opposition/public are calling for your head but the Mandelson stuff is genuinely obscene and he’s so unlikeable right across the spectrum of voters. I’d rather we didn’t spin the PM but he’s created a rod for his own back, he’ll go soon no doubt and be away to work for Palantir.

Streeting as PM

[CritchSmile]

https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/stat...v7LBY1wSvg


I for one hope they hold on to the Labour Together, McSweeney, Mandelson Blairite project Starmer. Well, long enough for them to position Streeting and throw him under the bus themselves.

The rival factions have to move now and quickly before they can position their preferred successor.

[CritchSmile]

How interesting.

https://twitter.com/ft/status/2053799845...v7LBY1wSvg

Fascist forces are coming for your democratic rights at unprecedented speed. What political choices will you make to resist it? Or will you roll over?

[Zizou]

I honestly can’t believe they think Wes Streeting is the answer.

Wes fucking Streeting. labour are about to be as dead as the tories.

[CritchSmile]

I honestly can’t believe they think Wes Streeting is the answer.

Wes fucking Streeting. labour are about to be as dead as the tories.

https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/2053...deo/1?s=46

This will help you understand. He’s the next in line for the project of squeezing authoritarian curbs on civil liberties and privatisation before Reform come in. It’s always much easier to get these things through with Labour than the civil unrest when Reform try to do it.

These guys will be well looked after for the rest of their lives by very powerful people if they can enact this project.

The Mandelson scandal and council election debacle is a small window of opportunity to take down this animal while it’s wounded, but those who could are too coy right now. They don’t want to be on the wrong side of these characters with a failed coup.

[Charlie Kelly]

Only thing you've got to hold on to for Labour is that Burnham is still hanging about, not that he's particularly inspiring but at least he appears to be more for the people than the manufactured cunts like Starmer and Streeting. 

It's all just reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic either way, England is lost to Reform.

[Zizou]

https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/2053...deo/1?s=46

This will help you understand. He’s the next in line for the project of squeezing authoritarian curbs on civil liberties and privatisation before Reform come in. It’s always much easier to get these things through with Labour than the civil unrest when Reform try to do it.

These guys will be well looked after for the rest of their lives by very powerful people if they can enact this project.

The Mandelson scandal and council election debacle is a small window of opportunity to take down this animal while it’s wounded, but those who could are too coy right now. They don’t want to be on the wrong side of these characters with a failed coup.

Who do you think is being too coy right now?

Clive Lewis is putting up a compelling case for Burnham. It looks like they are trying to fast track Streeting before that becomes a possibility.

[Mikey]

Undertaker's music is going to start blasting at Downing Street and the Blair creature is going to appear

[CritchSmile]

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Who do you think is being too coy right now?

Clive Lewis is putting up a compelling case for Burnham. It looks like they are trying to fast track Streeting before that becomes a possibility.

I actually hadn’t realised they had started a retaliatory coup attempt in the last couple of hours

Just catching up on the Burnham stuff now

[Zizou]

Mind one of the first acts of Starmer and Reeves was to tell the country to prepare for things to get worse unbelievable when you look back on it.

That was the beginning of the end even before his handling of a genocide or his Enoch Powell impression. A truly hopeless PM.

[Rogers Mako]

Genuinely rankles that every left shitposter on the internet could tell you by about July 2020 how this was all going to turn out, got called cranks for it at the time by the Sensibles, and now the same Sensibles are all acting like they had Starmer's number all along and still calling the left cranks for the new thing (thinking genocide is bad).

[2MatoFish]

I don't really follow day to day politics anymore, but am I correct in thinking that starmer is cooked because, basically, he's a bit of a charmless berk? And there are people in the labour party who think Wes Streeting is the man to solve the problem?

[Del-icious]

Not really been impressed with Burnham’s launch

[Zizou]

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status...KB4RVIQVLw

I like the messaging tbh. This is what I want to hear from the Labour Party. Charmisma and personality that Starmer can only dream about.

Obviously questions over what he stands for and him being a bit of a chameleon, but he seems like a genuinely decent guy which is rare in politics now.

[Del-icious]

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status...KB4RVIQVLw

I like the messaging tbh. This is what I want to hear from the Labour Party. Charmisma and personality that Starmer can only dream about.

Obviously questions over what he stands for and him being a bit of a chameleon, but he seems like a genuinely decent guy which is rare in politics now.

I thought he was a decent normal guy but all this stuff has come out about LFI, is it an LFI member standing down to let him contest as well? I don’t know why any normal person focused on British politics and improving the lives of Brits needs to be in a friends of Israel group. Would be interested to see if his name pops up on the list of folk who have had cash anaw.

Was very disappointed reading that tbh then his messaging around the EU question seemed to me he was leaning into winning the reform types back which is the exact same mistake Starmer has made and left us in this situation in the first place. Charm and charisma is a bonus but not what I want to see first, boris Johnson had charm and charisma it doesn’t really mean anything if you’ve got other interests besides the country.

Pro Israel and against refusing to have the conversation about rejoining the EU - not really someone who appeals to me anyway. Will wait and see what more he comes out with as appreciate they’ll all be trying to smear each other at this point.

[CritchSmile]

Yeah it seems the same system of power has sidelined Streeting as they deem him too toxic and see Burnham as the more palatable face for the exact same, very unpalatable project.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, we all need some hope. There’s a reason why he’s been given a free run to the seat of prime minister all of a sudden.

I want to sideline critical thinking and believe in something again but we’ve been mugged off too many times to go through that again.

[2MatoFish]

Streeting may have been sidelined by systems of power, but I daresay being an unlikeable toad may also play a part in the puzzle.

[CritchSmile]

Streeting may have been sidelined by systems of power, but I daresay being an unlikeable toad may also play a part in the puzzle.

That's exactly why they made the decision to sideline him for Burnham. Pretty sure I just wrote that like.

It will be much easier for Labour Together/Think Labour to get their unsavoury policies through with Burnham as their frontman than Streeting.