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General football musings
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#12,681
05-02-2020, 12:23 PM
Just showing France v Germany from 1982 where Schumacher tries to kill Battiston with his arse.

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#12,682
05-02-2020, 04:19 PM
https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/n...-equal-pay

What a load of pish. Why would they get paid the same when the men's game brings in so much more money? Warnock
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#12,683
05-02-2020, 04:32 PM
Think I'd normally agree with you, but does anyone know how big the discrepancy in finances is in the US? Men's football is less popular, and women's football more popular, there than here. Obviously the tournaments the men's team play in bring in more regardless, but they might have more of a case in the US than elsewhere.
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05-02-2020, 04:34 PM (Edited 05-02-2020, 04:34 PM by Kashinda.)
Men's game generates double the amount of revenue in the US
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#12,685
05-02-2020, 04:48 PM
Whether they deserve equal pay or not, that Megan Rapinoe does my box in.

Her winning the women's Balon D'Or shows how far off the pace women's football is. She played in about 20 games in the whole of 2019.

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#12,686
05-02-2020, 04:52 PM
How would equal pay work? Isnt every footballer on a different contract?
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#12,687
05-02-2020, 04:53 PM
Women's football is dreadful but if they're generating the same revenue as the men's team, they should get paid the same. I've no got a clue what the figures are though.

Having said that, that purple hair wifey seems like a massive pain in the arse so hopefully it's bammed her right up Sound
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#12,688
05-02-2020, 05:03 PM
Fucking chancers, they're lucky folk are now shamed in to pretending womens football isn't anything other than a comedy show.
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05-02-2020, 05:07 PM
Rapinoe is definitely one of the most odious, irritating, arrrogant, egotistical and overly liberal arseholes in any sport, regardless of gender.
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05-02-2020, 05:14 PM
(05-02-2020, 04:34 PM)Kashinda Wrote: Men's game generates double the amount of revenue in the US

Fair enough. Do the men's team earn twice as much or is it more than that? My basic stance is that for as long as we live in a market economy, male athletes will earn more than women, but if the discrepancy in wages is greater than the discrepancy in income then that might justifiably be looked at.

Don't pay much attention to women's football personally, but do think there's probably a conversation worth having about why some people get so worked up over Rapinoe but are much less bothered about similarly arrogant male sports stars.
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05-02-2020, 05:24 PM
Loads of people do hate arrogant male sports stars to be fair. Neymar, Ronaldo etc. Notable difference being, they are genuinely amazing footballers.
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05-02-2020, 05:26 PM
(05-02-2020, 05:24 PM)Mikey Wrote: Loads of people do hate arrogant male sports stars to be fair. Neymar, Ronaldo etc. Notable difference being, they are genuinely amazing footballers.

I guess you're right. Does feel like some people love Ronaldo but hate her in a pretty weird way, though.

I see Hendricks said she's 'overly liberal' - if that's the issue then, regardless of whether or not I agree, it makes more sense to me than having a problem with her being arrogant. Most sports stars are arrogant.
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05-02-2020, 05:28 PM
I read the US lassies side got tanned off a u16 boys club from Texas?

Warnock

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05-02-2020, 05:40 PM
(05-02-2020, 05:28 PM)The Comedian Wrote: I read the US lassies side got tanned off a u16 boys club from Texas?

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Hope that's true.

It was U15

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05-02-2020, 05:42 PM
(05-02-2020, 05:14 PM)Makween Wrote: Fair enough. Do the men's team earn twice as much or is it more than that? My basic stance is that for as long as we live in a market economy, male athletes will earn more than women, but if the discrepancy in wages is greater than the discrepancy in income then that might justifiably be looked at.

Don't pay much attention to women's football personally, but do think there's probably a conversation worth having about why some people get so worked up over Rapinoe but are much less bothered about similarly arrogant male sports stars.

Tbh I don't know. I just googled US men's team revenue and this was the first thing that came up. 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.thegu...yers-uswnt

US Soccer said it pays the women's national team players a base salary of $100,000 per year, and an additional $67,500 to $72,500 per player as a salary for playing in the National Women's Soccer League. The women also have healthcare benefits and a retirement plan.
Conversely, players on the men's national team are paid by training camp call-ups, game appearances and through performance bonuses. The federation says the men have the ability to earn higher bonuses that the women. The collective bargaining agreements are not made public, and US Soccer did not provide details about the men's bonus structure.
USSF also says the men's team generates more revenue. The women's team generated $101.3m over the course of 238 games between 2009 and 2019 while the men generated $185.7m over 191 games, according to the federation.

There seems to be articles saying the woman's team generates more revenue, some that say they're about the same and some that say the men earn more.
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05-02-2020, 05:55 PM
It sounds like they've got a valid case for better wages, if not equal Vlad Shrug
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05-02-2020, 06:04 PM
Don't really understand how you can 'salary' an international player. Surely the squad changes from game to game? Are Scotland players salaried?
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05-02-2020, 06:20 PM
(05-02-2020, 06:04 PM)Vieri Wrote: Don't really understand how you can 'salary' an international player. Surely the squad changes from game to game? Are Scotland players salaried?

They may do it the same as other sports, e.g. cricket, where they centrally contract a number of players and share monies that way.

From what I remember, international footballers get appearance fees and their clubs get payments as a type of insurance.
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05-02-2020, 06:39 PM
(05-02-2020, 05:55 PM)Mikey Wrote: It sounds like they've got a valid case for better wages, if not equal  Vlad Shrug

Woman generating 425k a game


Men generating 975k a game

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05-02-2020, 06:45 PM
(05-02-2020, 05:24 PM)Mikey Wrote: Loads of people do hate arrogant male sports stars to be fair. Neymar, Ronaldo etc. Notable difference being, they are genuinely amazing footballers.

People hate Neymar and Ronaldo for how they behave on the pitch though.

The same people hate Rapinoe for using her platform to make a stand to campaign against racism, sexism and gender inequality, when she should shut up and be grateful that women's sport gets any coverage in the first place.

That's the 'notable difference' to me.
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