Donald Trump

[1500 Dollars a Day]

That's what the governor said

I'm sure Fox News is saying a lot of things about the riots but not sure I'd pay attention to any of it.

[Hendricks]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/...ame=iossmf

It's like a scene out of Batman or something

To be fair the big man has been spotted

https://mobile.twitter.com/MahyarTousi/s...6922150913

[Hendricks]

They are just thugs man, there is no other way of looking at it.

Mind at the start of lockdown everyone was almost ridiculing African countries because there were police going about with big canes battering folk who were outside.  Seriously how are they any better then any of that?

It's also one thing being heavy handed but how do you even begin to justify running a crowd of protesters over?

The problem many of these videos is they encapsulate a small moment in time and miss everything that happened before and after to for the preferred narrative of either those posting them or the news outlet who edited them. This incident is one such example. The video provides no context, I know because I was watching it all live on local news. The 2 police cars were blocked, attacked, stoned and bottled and there was a clear and obvious threat to both the vehicle and those inside. They also showed huge constraint to avoid doing what they eventually felt necessary. Couple that with the fact Molotov cocktails are being thrown at and into law enforcement vehicles you aren't going to be waiting for that possibility. Earlier yesterday in the same neighborhood 2 woman were charged in the attempted murder of 4 officers for the exact same thing. There are plenty videos which show all sides in negative light without the flames being unnecessarily fueled but sadly things will get worse because people who should know a lot better, on all sides of the political divide are only too happy to see the country burn.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/1266756009881714689

[Imaq]

Of *course* Hendricks is one of those guys

[Karl Urbenoit]

[Karl Urbenoit]

Of *course* Hendricks is one of those guys

#AllLivesMatter

[1500 Dollars a Day]

I couldn't care if their cars were getting stoned tbh, they just drove clean through a crowd of people. Is throwing stones at a police car punishable by death?

I think it's clear what's going on so not really interested in hearing 'the other side' on this one. It's not really something to have an opinion on, it's very obvious what is happening and if you're not on the side of black people on this one then you're against them.

[Hendricks]

Of *course* Hendricks is one of those guys

Oh here he is, “one of those guys”, if you want to engage in some debate about the situation I'm happy to do so. If your only posting abuse as seems to be your MO on the board you can fuck off.

[Nive la France]

Oh here he is, “one of those guys”, if you want to engage in some debate about the situation I'm happy to do so. If your only posting abuse as seems to be your MO on the board you can fuck off.

You could level this at pretty much any other user on here and be right

[Hendricks]

I couldn't care if their cars were getting stoned tbh, they just drove clean through a crowd of people.  Is throwing stones at a police car punishable by death?

I think it's clear what's going on so not really interested in hearing 'the other side' on this one.  It's not really something to have an opinion on, it's very obvious what is happening and if you're not on the side of black people on this one then you're against them.

My point above is not about being on any side, if you think that incidents like that have anything to do with George Floyd's horrific death then I don't know what to tell you. Those rioters are not helping the protesters who in their thousands are rightfully protesting without destroying and burning down their cities. The number of black people who have lost businesses and their livelihoods and who want nothing to do with these incidents far outweighs those who don't. The video that Ross Kemp posted earlier is a brilliant example of what leadership should look like. It's clear your entrenched in just believing snippets of what you see on social media and on the news, a stance that only sees the situation continue along this path. The narrative needs to change, law enforcement needs to root out the scum amongst its numbers, there needs to be societal change to the benefit of black people and minorities but destroying their own communities is only hurting those already suffering the fall out of Covid right now.

[Imaq]

Oh here he is, “one of those guys”, if you want to engage in some debate about the situation I'm happy to do so. If your only posting abuse as seems to be your MO on the board you can fuck off.

Think I'll continue just posting abuse, for two reasons:

• Any white person living in the US and responding to current events with any form of both sides-ism, fetishising the peaceful forms of protest that have been being ignored for generations, is actively complicit in institutional racism. Plenty of black activists are making the exact points I'd make far more eloquently than I would, and in fairness are actually being given a platform to do so in the US media; if you're not taking those points on board, it's less likely to be out of ignorance than because you're choosing to remain complicit. On that basis, debating this issue with you would most probably be a total waste of my time.
  
• You're a total fucking dullard, so there wouldn't even be any entertainment value.
  

Not going to fuck off, though.

[Iker Kashillas]

[Charlie Kelly]

Think I'll continue just posting abuse, for two reasons:

• Any white person living in the US and responding to current events with any form of both sides-ism, fetishising the peaceful forms of protest that have been being ignored for generations, is actively complicit in institutional racism. Plenty of black activists are making the exact points I'd make far more eloquently than I would, and in fairness are actually being given a platform to do so in the US media; if you're not taking those points on board, it's less likely to be out of ignorance than because you're choosing to remain complicit. On that basis, debating this issue with you would most probably be a total waste of my time.
  
• You're a total fucking dullard, so there wouldn't even be any entertainment value.
  

Not going to fuck off, though.  

[dokratrow]

Tfw was going to criticise Hendricks for his earlier posts about the 'uppity' protestors but now it would just be jumping on the bandwagon

[1500 Dollars a Day]

How can you sit there as a white person and say you're not going to take any sides and X actions result in Y. It's so fucking patronising man, you have nae idea what it's like to experience any of it.

I don't think trashing stuff is good but then who am I to judge? You mentioned the context of the videos and that it didn't show you the 2 mins before it, what about the context of why these riots are happening in the first place? I've never experienced decades of daily life where someone might not just like the look of me and next minute my ma is pricing up a coffin. Easy for all of us to sit here and judge the baddies smashing the windows and stealing out the shops but it is absolutely nothing in comparison to how America has treated and continues to treat black people.

I was absolutely fuming after hearing some cunt went and drove 200 miles across the country, I'm pretty sure if I had experienced being pegged back just about every day of my life in some way, seeing innocent friends lose their lives and my voice was constantly ignored and trashed that I would be angry enough that I thought smashing things was the only way to be heard tbh.

You can think what you want about my opinions and where they come from man that's up to you but I am very confident I will be on the right side of history with this one. Not sure the people who seem to think being seen to satisfy both sides of the argument is absolutely vital with this one will come out looking that good.

[King WillDred of Orange]

I'm uncomfortable with the looting and I think it helps to entrench opinions on both sides of the debate.

Violent protest is one thing and something that I'd imagine many black people support after lots of other forms have made little or no difference, trashing a Nike shop and stealing the contents is another.

[Mikey]

I'd be getting myself a new telly in the maelstrom like. Game ain't based on sympathy

[Imaq]

I'm uncomfortable with the looting and I think it helps to entrench opinions on both sides of the debate.

Violent protest is one thing and something that I'd imagine many black people support after lots of other forms have made little or no difference, trashing a Nike shop and stealing the contents is another.

With specific reference to the looting, as opposed to the other violence, I don't think you can separate it from the specific context we're currently living through of already high unemployment which will only rise further as we sink into depression (but enough about the impacts of having to read Hendricks's bad posts, the economy is getting even worse).

[Konnichiwa You Cunt]

How transparent is the British media hype around Killer Mike's speech btw? You can actually imagine the delight on dozens of gammon faces at seeing a black man, who google tells them is a famous rapper, advocating an end to the violent protests.

[Hendricks]

How can you sit there as a white person and say you're not going to take any sides and X actions result in Y.  It's so fucking patronising man, you have nae idea what it's like to experience any of it.

I don't think trashing stuff is good but then who am I to judge?  You mentioned the context of the videos and that it didn't show you the 2 mins before it, what about the context of why these riots are happening in the first place?  I've never experienced decades of daily life where someone might not just like the look of me and next minute my ma is pricing up a coffin.  Easy for all of us to sit here and judge the baddies smashing the windows and stealing out the shops but it is absolutely nothing in comparison to how America has treated and continues to treat black people.

 I was absolutely fuming after hearing some cunt went and drove 200 miles across the country, I'm pretty sure if I had experienced being pegged back just about every day of my life in some way, seeing innocent friends lose their lives and my voice was constantly ignored and trashed that I would be angry enough that I thought smashing things was the only way to be heard tbh.

You can think what you want about my opinions and where they come from man that's up to you but I am very confident I will be on the right side of history with this one.  Not sure the people who seem to think being seen to satisfy both sides of the argument is absolutely vital with this one will come out looking that good.

You are speculating on things I've not said. Judging me and my possible opinion, wrongly as it happens because I pointed out the particular incident you posted about did not reflect that whole story. To be clear there has equally been videos that do not show totally over the top policing before an incident which has understandably created a justifiable reaction from protesters. 

I totally agree with you about the disgraceful way that too much of this country continues to treat those of colour and from minority backgrounds. The media and indeed politicians of this country, from all political groups have systematically failed and continue to flounder. In my opinion they are culpable in making things worse in the way they report and narrate what is actually happening. 

It would clearly surprise you and Makween to know, given your apparent judgement of my values that one of my closest friends is a black man, was a groomsman at my wedding and who is from a very under privileged background. We've chatted many times, including in recent days, about what it's like to grow up in that environment, subjects like stop and frisk which impacted him throughout his adolescence and indeed how feels change can be implemented. I've become involved in assisting him in a number of charitable endeavors for black kids who have so little and none of the trappings we've all grown up with, some are barely fed on a day to day basis and as uplifting an experience as that's been it's also been very humbling and eye opening. They deserve a way better future than what currently awaits them. That people differ about possible ways to achieve that does not mean they don't ultimately want that the same thing. He doesn't want the community he originally came from being burnt to the ground taking what little those who live there do have in the meantime.