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'Wings Over TalkHearts' Politics Thread

'Wings Over TalkHearts' Politics Thread
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07-10-2020, 10:50 AM (Edited 07-10-2020, 10:53 AM by CritchSmile.)
I still back anyone that votes anti-tory. Doesn't matter if it's lib dem, labour, greens, snp whatever.

In a vaccum it's clear that if Starmer pursued a moderate social democratic strategy then it would appeal to enough people to be elected. But he's decided instead to take the path of least resistance which is appealing more and more to centre, centre right. I don't think it's a particularly safer strategy, it has it's own risks. He may get an easier time from the print media and may help him tip-toe around the culture wars in the short term, but it's very easy to lose credibility until you stand for nothing and become a figure of ridicule.
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#26,702
07-10-2020, 05:20 PM
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status...08096?s=19

The most popular leader since Blair further extends his commanding lead. Sir Keirmania!
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#26,703
07-10-2020, 05:43 PM
(07-10-2020, 05:20 PM)Makween Wrote: https://twitter.com/britainelects/status...08096?s=19

The most popular leader since Blair further extends his commanding lead. Sir Keirmania!

Tony Hmm not bad
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07-10-2020, 05:48 PM
(07-10-2020, 10:50 AM)S.J. Wrote: I still back anyone that votes anti-tory. Doesn't matter if it's lib dem, labour, greens, snp whatever.

In a vaccum it's clear that if Starmer pursued a moderate social democratic strategy then it would appeal to enough people to be elected. But he's decided instead to take the path of least resistance which is appealing more and more to centre, centre right. I don't think it's a particularly safer strategy, it has it's own risks. He may get an easier time from the print media and may help him tip-toe around the culture wars in the short term, but it's very easy to lose credibility until you stand for nothing and become a figure of ridicule.

I think it's a cynical calculation that left-aligned voters can be taken for granted to cast an anti-Tory vote as they've not many other options so more effort is spent trying to siphon off centrists/moderates from the Tories. Even more so in the States.
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07-10-2020, 07:07 PM
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/polit...idget_user

I think this article absolutely nails Starmer's time so far.
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07-10-2020, 07:11 PM (Edited 07-10-2020, 07:12 PM by CritchSmile.)
(07-10-2020, 05:48 PM)Snake Plissken Wrote: I think it's a cynical calculation that left-aligned voters can be taken for granted to cast an anti-Tory vote as they've not many other options so more effort is spent trying to siphon off centrists/moderates from the Tories. Even more so in the States.

Biden and Keir seem to be at pains to make sure that they do not stand for anything. There is a demand for bland pragmatism and it is something I see as an asset in their armoury. I just don't like when they flash their skirts at provenly failed economic policies.

People still like to know what they are voting for. Clinton thought she could just shitpost herself over the line with no policy platform and the world ended up with that Trump clown.

Edit: I typed my post before seeing AP's link Warnock
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#26,707
07-13-2020, 12:21 PM
https://twitter.com/clientjournoexp/stat...38464?s=21

FFS Monty Chuckle
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07-13-2020, 12:49 PM
Most popular stance since

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07-13-2020, 12:50 PM
He'll be hiring Lynton Crosby next Warnock
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07-13-2020, 04:57 PM
He's rocking those trainers tbf Quite Good
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07-13-2020, 05:38 PM
Easy to mock any of them, but imagine how difficult it'd be if someone pointed a camera at you and told you to stand like a lizard.
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#26,712
07-15-2020, 06:32 PM
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1...44934?s=20

Didnt see a coup coming. Titter
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07-15-2020, 06:57 PM
(07-15-2020, 06:32 PM)Jeff Resnick Wrote: https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1...44934?s=20

Didnt see a coup coming. Titter

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/128...60000?s=21

Went down well it seems Monty Chuckle
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07-15-2020, 07:03 PM
(07-15-2020, 06:57 PM)Charlie Kelly Wrote: https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/128...60000?s=21

Went down well it seems Monty Chuckle

Does that not mean he cant sit on the Committee?
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07-15-2020, 08:30 PM
No, he just sits as an Independent MP.

Masterstroke by Cummings making the Chair of the Intelligence Committee an Independent MP Laugh
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07-15-2020, 08:51 PM
(07-15-2020, 08:30 PM)Frank Uchewood Wrote: No, he just sits as an Independent MP.

Masterstroke by Cummings making the Chair of the Intelligence Committee an Independent MP Laugh

Delightful. jjay
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07-16-2020, 09:44 AM
Shamima Begum wins right to return to UK

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020..._clipboard

A step in the right direction Sound
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#26,718
07-16-2020, 10:13 AM
While I agree, it's the sort of distraction Boris and co will revel in
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07-17-2020, 08:23 AM
BBC doortsepping Corbyn to accuse him of being compliciat in russian interference, for, er, sharing a genuine document that had been on reddit for days, which the tories have admitted was genuine.

Meanwhile the actual russian report has still not been published and johnson plays tennis with oligarchs.

It's genuinely disgusting.
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#26,720
07-20-2020, 09:21 PM
This is just depressing readingFat Cunt


https://twitter.com/lukepollard/status/1...65475?s=21
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